Yes, I care about you

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  1. Tucson Thump

    Tucson Thump Mint Heavy Relic

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    and so, braving public scorn, I want to post a letter I read from a doctor about avoiding COVID-19. After all, it wouldn't be much of an Experience if some of you became ill, right?

    Mark

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    Dr. James Robb is circulating the email copied here which contains his ideas about how to protect yourself from COID-19. It contains a number of suggestions we have not seen anywhere else, such as protecting yourself when grasping things like gasoline dispensers, and the fact that zinc lozenges offer protection against the virus. In addition, while it has been extensively reported that wearing a mask does not shield you from airborne virus particles, Dr. Robb points out that this practice does prevent you from touching your nose and mouth, which we do automatically many times a day.

    From Dr. Robb:

    Date: February 26, 2020 at 2:35:50 PM EST
    Subject: What I am doing for the upcoming COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic.

    When I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.

    The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.

    Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:

    1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.

    2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.

    3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip – do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.

    4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.

    5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.

    6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home’s entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can’t immediately wash your hands.

    7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

    What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:

    1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.


    Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average – everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.


    2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you – it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth – it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.

    3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.

    4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY “cold-like” symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.

    I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.

    I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email. Good luck to all of us!

    Jim

    James Robb, MD FCAP
     
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  2. ]-[@n$0Ma☩!©

    ]-[@n$0Ma☩!© Zombie Zero

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    Pffftt...

    This list TOTALLY fails to mention stocking up on Italian coffee beans. And you expect me to take it seriously?
     
  3. toothace

    toothace Zombie Thirteen, DFZ

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    As a health care provider who is getting gouged for masks ( when I can even get them) that are required for me to treat patients, PLEASE DON'T BUY MASKS!!!!!

    Be smart and don't let anyone sneeze or cough on you.

    Thank you!

    Entitled PRS owning rich dentist guy
     
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  4. AP515

    AP515 Mostly Normal

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    It's good to take precautions where you can. Of the ones who have gone through the complete cycle of infection, 48,000 recovered, 3,000 died. That means even if you get it you have a 94% chance of recovery just by the numbers. Better than that if you are fairly healthy. No reason to fear, just be cautious. Wash your hands, and don't suck your thumb.
     
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  5. Ovibos

    Ovibos Naughty Wood Librarian

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    I went to Trader Joe's this weekend, and people have bought up all the pasta and frozen veggies since we're all doomsday preppers now.
     
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  6. pac90

    pac90 Helix user

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    Tamiflu
     
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  7. Tucson Thump

    Tucson Thump Mint Heavy Relic

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    Valid point. Just don't go to Italy to get them.
     
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  8. jak3af3r

    jak3af3r Jake

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    My local Costco had almost no water or toilet paper the other day.
     
  9. ScottR

    ScottR If nobody saw it, it didn't happen.

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    C'mon, lets keep it real...this bunch needs to be more worried about contracting Chlamydia.
    Just sayin.:p
     
  10. CandidPicker

    CandidPicker Energized

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    While we'd like to not worry about contracting COVID-19, there is a valid fear among people that is hurting both the retail market who supplies preventive treatment options and the economy. This fear has caused not only the stock market to expense a "correction," because of the interference in international trade and tourism, but also because it was reported recently (fact-check, please?) that the shortage of surgical masks is due to 1) high demand and 2) surgical masks are mostly produced overseas.

    Also working as a retail sales health provider there may be increasing anxiety concerning the spread of COVID-19, on both sides of the sales counter. We only wish to serve your needs, but please consider that fear is also only as healthy as it is treatable. Likely will increased activity worldwide to stem the spread of coronavirus, it may be necessary to consider working at home, telecommuting and reporting into work as necessary for only required physical presence.

    Remember that if health care workers contract the illness, we cannot immediately replace these workers with outside help. We may be short-staffed as a result. Your patience is appreciated ahead of time, simply because with increased illness is the demand for treatment options.

    Please understand that we can only provide what we have in stock or at our local sister-stores. We also understand your frustration and level of aggravation regards wait times for medications. We feel the urgency as much as you do, so it's appreciated when we hear your thanks for doing the best we can. Remember, we can only work at our jobs as fast as our requirement for accuracy allows. We wish to correctly fill your order so that no one is put in harm's way.

    That being said, my hope is that with taking special precautions in public, especially in greater infection risk scenarios, we can reduce the effects of the COVID-19 virus by using common sense and not fear to highlight our daily routines.

    If @Tuscon Thump thinks it wise to stock up on zinc lozenges or hand sanitizer because of one research professor's study of coronavirus, it would be my duty to approach store management and inform them of the potential increased demand.

    Thanks for reading,

    CandidPicker
    CVS Pharmacy Store Associate
     
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  11. Huggy B

    Huggy B Space is the place

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    He forgot #8 - Become a hermit until it blows over.
     
  12. xjbebop

    xjbebop Yippy ki yay...

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  13. goat-n-gitter

    goat-n-gitter Dismembered

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    More worried about its' impact on my 401k than anything else.
     
  14. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    Truth....especially with a retired spouse and her retirement account
     
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  15. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    Glad to see you post. Worried about you yesterday after what rolled through Nashville.
     
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  16. Guitpicky

    Guitpicky New Member

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    Fear porn based on a tried and true cookie cutter formula. You’d think more people would learn to recognize the pattern, but they don’t :)
     
  17. ScottR

    ScottR If nobody saw it, it didn't happen.

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    Yup...got this on lock...I'm good.

    Anybody gets close to me, gets a well placed punch to the ding ding.:D
     
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  18. veinbuster

    veinbuster Zombie Three, DFZ

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    That’s fair.
    I think anyone who doesn’t need to cash any of it out in the near term will be fine.
    I make sure I have 12-18 months expenses in cash every time the market hits a new high.
     
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  19. Tucson Thump

    Tucson Thump Mint Heavy Relic

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    Well, a bunch of them ARE planning to go to Maryland to get the crabs
     
  20. Tucson Thump

    Tucson Thump Mint Heavy Relic

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    Like I said, I'm willing to face public ridicule. I'm not saying anyone here is likely to get sick, but if someone does how many other people are going to get sick just because you didn't take simple precautions?. Willing to possibly give it to your parents?

    I see it as a common courtesy, not fear porn. Obviously your view is different.
     
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