Lessons Learned - US Parts on SE

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  1. Lee B.

    Lee B. I stitch my wings and pull the strings.

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    This. I permanently mount my straps under the stock flanges using rubber strap blocks to make sure my suede strap doesn't find a way to wiggle off.
     
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  2. LTigh

    LTigh New Member

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    It were more experimentation than anything else, but I went with the Mann bridge upgrade kit-- basically replaces everything on the bridge except for the plate and comes with all the new mounting hardware. Everything went in pretty damn smooth, and it's the best thing I ever did for my Orianthi. Maybe John Mann designed it that way for the upgrade kit, but there were no issues with the mounting hardware.

    It's about $75 less than a NOS 2000 and gets you about 99% of the way there.

    May think about trying to find another Orianthi and doing a NOS 2000 install just to compare, Imma little weird like that.

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  3. MichaelS

    MichaelS I'm here for the free kool-aid...

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    I prefer the bar of either PRS or full MannMade trems compared to the SE bar...
     
  4. LTigh

    LTigh New Member

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    Okay, slight update, thanks to some promo e-mailed from John Mann:

    They're now making a direct retro-fit bridge for the CE, S2, and SE called the #2040.

    Only difference is the metric measurements and it's a 2- piece brass bridge rather than a one piece like the 2000.

    Currently on NAMM special pricing for $175 (regularly $200).

    https://store.guitarvaultusa.com/mo...annMade_PRS_Vibrato_Gen_II_Bridge_p/2040.htm=

    EDIT:. Also looks like they're offering their CEs with a free install/upgrade of the MANN bridge for a limited time, meaning that you get the new bridge and installation free with the purchase of a CE.

    So's if you always wanted that new-school CE but we're put off by the filthy foreign bridge, here's your chance to get one with a MURIKA bridge at no extra cost.

    Thus endeth the PSA.
     
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  5. MichaelG

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    Oh man, that's a beauty :) What Seymour Duncan's do you have in that?
     
  6. Fro

    Fro New Member

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    I’ve installed two Mannmade 2000 trems on two different CE24s without any problems. I’m not sure if there is a tone difference but the tuning stability was noticeable.
     
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  7. oldjock

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    great job Michael. How did you find the wider string spacing? Looks like the high e is quite a bit closer to the edge.
     
  8. Glide-bpm

    Glide-bpm aCk!!! Thbfftt!!! :P

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    I ended up biting the bullet and installing the MannMade trems on my Orianthi, a CE24, and a project guitar...
    They are like butter! Definite tonal improvements!!! Both of these guitars (CE & Orianthi) have custom Pure Wound www.Zhangbucker.com pickups in them.

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  9. tonytester

    tonytester PIC YOUR STRINGS WISELY

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  10. Alnus Rubra

    Alnus Rubra Loving nature’s wonders

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    I’m sure you know this anyway, but a little candle wax on the bridge screws may have helped to prevent breakage.

    It’s an old trick I learnt from a friend.
     
  11. andypiggins

    andypiggins New Member

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    Some really useful tips here - thanks everyone!
     
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  12. LTigh

    LTigh New Member

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    Pearly Gates bridge and '59 Neck, coil split. And they're wonderful.
     
  13. MichaelS

    MichaelS I'm here for the free kool-aid...

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    guess I missed this reply last year...
    ... I don't feel a difference from the spacing and even though it's closer to the edge, I don't slip the e string off the side at all, which happens quite a bit on my core Santana if I don't pay attention...
     
  14. tonytester

    tonytester PIC YOUR STRINGS WISELY

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    dented finish for sure.
     
  15. Stoptail22

    Stoptail22 Infected with PRS

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  16. tonytester

    tonytester PIC YOUR STRINGS WISELY

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    no thanks.
     
  17. Johnny Rigs

    Johnny Rigs New Member

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    Older thread, but I'll add what I learned upgrading an SE Santana (bridge, tuners) and SE Zach Myers (bridge, tuners, pickups, pots).

    - USA pots require enlarging the holes to fit. I forget the measurements, but used a hand tool.
    - I didn't need to drill the bridge screw holes out when moving from stock SE Santana trem to a 2000NOS.
    - The 2000NOS is awesome.
    - SE stock trems are drop-in replacements for MIM Strat trems.
    - The studs in the MannMade 2300 Intonatable Bridge were deeper than the stud wells in the Zach Myers.
    - If you're not so good at soldering, have someone else switch out your electronics.
    - Don't expect an upgraded SE to cure you of Core model GAS.
    - USA knobs will fit on SE pots, but they don't have the same number of teeth, so you'll have to force them on. They fit smoothly on USA pots.
    - If the knobs are a bit loose, you can use tape to wrap around the pot first, before putting the knob on.
     
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  18. Alnus Rubra

    Alnus Rubra Loving nature’s wonders

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    Or if the spline has as split in it, open it gently to increase friction and hold your knob on!
     
  19. Johnny Rigs

    Johnny Rigs New Member

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    I’ve had some bad experiences with split splines and widening them out. ;)
     
  20. Alnus Rubra

    Alnus Rubra Loving nature’s wonders

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    Like with a lot of things on a guitar “slowly, slowly!”

    If tape works, that’s cool.:D
     
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