How did you discover PRSi?

Decided I wanted to buy 1(ha ha)really good guitar so I started looking around. Even living in Pittsburgh at the time most of the stores sold the same brands. I did check out a us made jackson but wasn't impressed. I was looking for something no one else was playing. In 89 not many were playing prs so I went to pianos and stuff near Pittsburgh and ended up with the 89 CE and haven't looked back
 
I have a slightly different answer and experience to @Tone-y as I certainly remember seeing PRS guitars in the late 80's early 90's. I must admit though that they were 'rare' - like Parker Guitars but they certainly had an audience and could be seen in most of the shops in my area unlike Parker which were very rare to see. They weren't 'common', it wasn't as if every 'bar' playing band had anything like a PRS and at most, you would see a proper Gibson Les Paul which was probably bought second hand before the whole Vintage thing blew up. Only famous bands had a Les Paul custom shop. It was seeing PRS in a guitar shop that made me want one, made it the ultimate guitar - the Waynes World it will be mine, oh yes it will be mine Guitar. It replaced my Gibson Les Paul Custom in Wine Red as my 'dream' guitar as soon as I saw one - I never saw a Wine Red Les Paul either - other than in a shop...

You could equally argue that the Ibanez Jem never came to prominence in the UK as these too were never really seen other than in a guitar shop. I think a lot of that though comes down to price. Your average band weren't really playing PRS on stage - much like they weren't playing any high end guitar on stage. I honestly can't say I remember seeing them anywhere other than a guitar shop or in Guitarist magazines. At most you would see a video of one of the American bands of the late 90's playing PRS but the shops around me were selling PRS guitars - not in huge quantity but enough to see new guitars in and older stock disappear. For example 'World Guitars' a high end guitar shop that Rob Chapman (of Andertons and Chapman guitars) started doing video demonstrations for is literally just down the road from me - within 20mins drive. Someone must have been buying these guitars.

Prominence though is perhaps too strong a word. They certainly aren't or weren't common to see if you exclude the shops and the obvious turn over of stock. My 'Waynes World' dream guitar would have to be replaced as the guitars would disappear from the shop, sold to someone, and be replaced by another similar PRS. The very late 90's and 2000's were not as music focussed for me as I got married and had kids so any thoughts of pursuing music and obtaining a 'dream guitar' disappeared so I stopped looking.

High end guitars have never been 'common' to see amongst the bands I used to see in pubs/clubs etc. Santana was still the most famous player of PRS guitars. I can't recall anyone I saw live actually playing a PRS and only tended to see them in guitar shops but they would disappear and be replaced by 'new' PRS stock. I only know this because they were my 'dream' guitar and would be replaced by a different dream guitar as they sold. These were like Ferrari's or Lamborghini's of guitars - the very high end instrument that people were obviously buying but once they left a showroom, you rarely if ever saw them out in the 'wild' so to speak. They may well of been bought as a 'trophy', a studio/home use 'prize' guitar that people didn't take to gigs as those who bought supercars didn't drive their prize motor to work every day. I really don't know - all I know is that PRS guitars, as well as adverts in UK based Guitar magazines had PRS - generally the most expensive guitars in the shop - and these would sell periodically so some people must have bought them.

There are UK based guitarists here who own PRS. Maybe they have a different perspective but I kind of think that unless you were a Professional recording musician, High end instruments just weren't used for gigging. There seemed to be quite a gap between bands that had made it and the rest who were 'trying' to make it - the bands doing all the pubs, clubs etc. Those that hadn't were generally playing guitars under £1k and those that had were bands that tended to be 'Gibson' or 'Fender' - maybe Jackson or Ibanez.

As I said, my experience is likely to be different from some as I missed the whole era of the SE release and subsequent decade due to family commitments so I am only referring to the first 14yrs of PRS (from their first factory onwards) and haven't really been actively going out to pubs/clubs etc since I separated and divorced which has enabled me to return to trying to play guitar. I am only speaking of the pre-2000's when I say that bands weren't using 'high' end instruments - inc Gibson - unless they were old and obviously used before the vintage market made these 'something' special. The 'few' opportunities I had to look in a music shop to look at 'dream' guitars, look at something that were drifting further and further away - even more of an unobtainable dream, I would never see the same instruments twice meaning that their stock had at least been replaced.


You lot are really in your own little world over there, aren't you?


There's never been much opportunity for me to see "bar" bands. I saw a Mira with a Duncan and a DiMarzio once.

I was in Vegas on Fremont Street where they have all the freaks at Halloween time. I saw Woody from Toy Story playing a Firebird, and then what basically amounts to a Steel Panther rip-off band playing Jacksons but using more gain than I've ever heard ever in history.


Now they you guys mention it, you really don't even see SEs out in the wild
 
I probably started dabbling in guitar maybe the 80's. Very early 90's I used to go to music stores with my dad. I had probably seen guitar mag ads prior, but we walked into a usual store stop and there was a display set up in the middle of the store with maybe 7-8 PRS guitars on it. We pretty much stopped dead in our tracks. Highly figured tops with non classic colors and bird inlays were the first thing that stood out. I remember royal and whale blue, emerald green, purple, grey black. Still to this day, the classic colors don't usually float my boat much, but those PRS classic colors that I mentioned are pretty damn cool in my book. It was a tasteful modernization unlike the typical 80's stuff that was mostly flash. Anyway, I didn't play a PRS that day because they were way out of the price range of something I could get. I did vow to my dad that one day I would get.
Fast forward to the mid 90's, got out of school and was working. Wanting a PRS more and more. I saw a Darth Vader action figure in a pawn shop selling for like $10. I realized I had all those classic Star Wars toys my dad got me when I was a kid collecting dust and started pricing some of it(oh, the internet would've been WAY helpful then!). I talked to my dad and he was cool with me selling the Star Wars collection to fund a PRS. And that was that. I ordered a Custom 22 in whale blue and the wait began. I think it took 8-9 months or so. PRS had just moved to Stevensville around that time. I remember getting the call when it was in. Racing to the music store and back home to show my dad(and mom), worried I was gonna get a speeding ticket. Opening the case on the living room floor, it was one of moments where the angel's sing and everyone ooh's and aah's. My dad passed away the following year. Him, I and PRS will always be connected by those moments.

I'm sorry about your pops man
 
You lot are really in your own little world over there, aren't you?


There's never been much opportunity for me to see "bar" bands. I saw a Mira with a Duncan and a DiMarzio once.

I was in Vegas on Fremont Street where they have all the freaks at Halloween time. I saw Woody from Toy Story playing a Firebird, and then what basically amounts to a Steel Panther rip-off band playing Jacksons but using more gain than I've ever heard ever in history.


Now they you guys mention it, you really don't even see SEs out in the wild

I don't know about being in our 'own little world' so to speak as more like lots of little bubbles condensed onto one little island. There can be a 'massive' difference by travelling 50miles in any direction. You can go from a massive multi-cultural city to a very conservative rural countryside with a very distinct but different accent. Britain is a very small island and there are numerous US states that are larger. I know you can probably tell what state someone is from by their accent but imagine the US shrunk down to the size of Britain with our counties being a bit like your states and you may have an idea of how many little 'bubbles' we as a nation are in. Just look at Glasgow and Edinburgh - separated by just 42miles (as the crow flies) yet have a different accent.

That difference, plus the fact we are an Island, does mean we are in a 'different' world to others - not necessarily a bad thing. In some ways it can be quite limiting and 'expensive' too because everything we import has to come by Air or Sea. The Euro Tunnel has opened up a link to Europe so trade can be transported over land - as long as it comes in from Europe via France.

That does have a knock-on effect to pricing as well as storage/space. For example, my last guitar purchase, my PRS Hollowbody ii with a one piece maple top/back, also my most expensive purchase (even more than most of my cars) was the equivalent of $5800 (not bragging) but are often over the equivalent of $6500 - for a 'non-10top' Hollowbody. A 'new' 594, Cu22 or Cu24 non-10top is generally around the equivalent of $4400 unless they have a sale or its been around for a while.

If I remember correctly when I saw my first PRS in a shop (very late 80's/early 90's), they were around £2k where as a Gibson Les Paul Custom was £1.5k. These were not 'just' instruments but literally one of, if not the most expensive new guitars you could buy - the Custom versions. Taking them out to gig - especially if you were playing pubs or small clubs - would be like driving your Ferrari or Lamborghini at a rally cross event - these were 'special' instruments, the type of Instrument you bought IF you had made it. These were costing more (new) than most of the 2nd hand cars and there were 'never' any 2nd hand models. For a lot of people, they probably never saw one other than in the magazines as most Shops didn't stock guitars over £1k - Gibson Les Paul Customs had to be ordered in specially. By that I mean you had a Les Paul leaflet in the shop that had the 'top' range Gibsons in and you asked the store owner to order one into the shop for you - a bit like pre-ordering new releases.

This was before the internet so you were reliant on your local music shop(s) as to what guitars you had access to. Some were very much the cheap and 2nd hand end - which also meant that their 2nd hand stock were more of the 'cheaper' end too. A few were shops that catered to the higher end and rarely had 'cheap' 2nd hand guitars. PRS guitars were 'look but din't touch' guitars - certainly if you looked like a rocker especially a young rocker, the store was not exactly welcoming. You needed to look like you had money to even enter the store without the staff looking at you in disgust or making some comment that you should go and look at the stores with the cheaper guitars. PRS guitars were like the Waynes World guitar locked in a perspex case - maybe not quite that extreme but you couldn't touch and had to ask to try and if it looked like you weren't rich, good luck in getting the store to let you try. That's why these were rarely ever gigged with by a 'small' band on the pubs/clubs circuit. If you have watched 'American Satan', the drummer is recruited from a Pub band.

There is people here that have a 'music' room bigger than my entire floor space in my house. People here with more 'free' wall space in one room to hang guitars than I have in my entire house. Storage space for guitars, cases, amps etc. Things are also very cramped by comparison to the US which may also explain why many don't have 20+ guitars. As I said though, its more like lots of small bubbles where my experience, space etc can be very different to someone elses just a few miles in any direction - depending on which 'bubble' you are in
 
I don't know about being in our 'own little world' so to speak as more like lots of little bubbles condensed onto one little island. There can be a 'massive' difference by travelling 50miles in any direction. You can go from a massive multi-cultural city to a very conservative rural countryside with a very distinct but different accent. Britain is a very small island and there are numerous US states that are larger. I know you can probably tell what state someone is from by their accent but imagine the US shrunk down to the size of Britain with our counties being a bit like your states and you may have an idea of how many little 'bubbles' we as a nation are in. Just look at Glasgow and Edinburgh - separated by just 42miles (as the crow flies) yet have a different accent.

That difference, plus the fact we are an Island, does mean we are in a 'different' world to others - not necessarily a bad thing. In some ways it can be quite limiting and 'expensive' too because everything we import has to come by Air or Sea. The Euro Tunnel has opened up a link to Europe so trade can be transported over land - as long as it comes in from Europe via France.

That does have a knock-on effect to pricing as well as storage/space. For example, my last guitar purchase, my PRS Hollowbody ii with a one piece maple top/back, also my most expensive purchase (even more than most of my cars) was the equivalent of $5800 (not bragging) but are often over the equivalent of $6500 - for a 'non-10top' Hollowbody. A 'new' 594, Cu22 or Cu24 non-10top is generally around the equivalent of $4400 unless they have a sale or its been around for a while.

If I remember correctly when I saw my first PRS in a shop (very late 80's/early 90's), they were around £2k where as a Gibson Les Paul Custom was £1.5k. These were not 'just' instruments but literally one of, if not the most expensive new guitars you could buy - the Custom versions. Taking them out to gig - especially if you were playing pubs or small clubs - would be like driving your Ferrari or Lamborghini at a rally cross event - these were 'special' instruments, the type of Instrument you bought IF you had made it. These were costing more (new) than most of the 2nd hand cars and there were 'never' any 2nd hand models. For a lot of people, they probably never saw one other than in the magazines as most Shops didn't stock guitars over £1k - Gibson Les Paul Customs had to be ordered in specially. By that I mean you had a Les Paul leaflet in the shop that had the 'top' range Gibsons in and you asked the store owner to order one into the shop for you - a bit like pre-ordering new releases.

This was before the internet so you were reliant on your local music shop(s) as to what guitars you had access to. Some were very much the cheap and 2nd hand end - which also meant that their 2nd hand stock were more of the 'cheaper' end too. A few were shops that catered to the higher end and rarely had 'cheap' 2nd hand guitars. PRS guitars were 'look but din't touch' guitars - certainly if you looked like a rocker especially a young rocker, the store was not exactly welcoming. You needed to look like you had money to even enter the store without the staff looking at you in disgust or making some comment that you should go and look at the stores with the cheaper guitars. PRS guitars were like the Waynes World guitar locked in a perspex case - maybe not quite that extreme but you couldn't touch and had to ask to try and if it looked like you weren't rich, good luck in getting the store to let you try. That's why these were rarely ever gigged with by a 'small' band on the pubs/clubs circuit. If you have watched 'American Satan', the drummer is recruited from a Pub band.

There is people here that have a 'music' room bigger than my entire floor space in my house. People here with more 'free' wall space in one room to hang guitars than I have in my entire house. Storage space for guitars, cases, amps etc. Things are also very cramped by comparison to the US which may also explain why many don't have 20+ guitars. As I said though, its more like lots of small bubbles where my experience, space etc can be very different to someone elses just a few miles in any direction - depending on which 'bubble' you are in


I'm not sure what you think I meant by that comment but, it was just an observation. I (like most Americans) am typically quite fond of the UK.
 
Here’s the headstock on that first PRS with a fitting Star Wars tribute. Sorry, I had to replace the winged tuners @sergiodeblanc

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Just look at Glasgow and Edinburgh - separated by just 42miles (as the crow flies) yet have a different accent.

And not just a difference of accent!

To touch on your comments about imports. The UK government has now put Import and Excise Duty on purchases with a value over £15.

I have made a $20 purchase which arrived today (PRS of course), which has acrued charges nearly to the same value! This is crippling when making larger purchases!
 
Is it an optical illusion, or does that guitar normally have some very “manly” strings on it?!:confused:
It had 12 16 20 36 52 60 on it at one time. Only 10-52 now, I just haven’t changed the nut since it hasn’t caused any negative issues as it sits now. It needs some fretwork done, someday soon.
 
I had a friend (worked a music store that did not carry PRA) tell me that I really needed a Paul Reed Smith guitar. I had never heard of this Paul Reed guy, So I said "yeah, whatever". He said "Dude, They are the best guitars on the planet". Again, I said "whatever, Got any LPs today". He told me that he'd love to sell me ANOTHER guitar, but I should go home & check them out. That night I jumped on Ebay for the 1st time ever. I came across a brand new Matteo Blue CU22 & just had to have. I mean, He said they were the best ever. I did a "buy it now" & 4 days later I had me a brand new 2002 CU22 the played easier than anything I had ever played. That was about ......... PRS guitars ago. Note I am too embarrassed to estimate how many I have owned.........:eek:
 
I had a friend (worked a music store that did not carry PRA) tell me that I really needed a Paul Reed Smith guitar. I had never heard of this Paul Reed guy, So I said "yeah, whatever". He said "Dude, They are the best guitars on the planet". Again, I said "whatever, Got any LPs today". He told me that he'd love to sell me ANOTHER guitar, but I should go home & check them out. That night I jumped on Ebay for the 1st time ever. I came across a brand new Matteo Blue CU22 & just had to have. I mean, He said they were the best ever. I did a "buy it now" & 4 days later I had me a brand new 2002 CU22 the played easier than anything I had ever played. That was about ......... PRS guitars ago. Note I am too embarrassed to estimate how many I have owned.........:eek:
You sir, have nothing to be embarrassed about. And I hope you bought that guy a beer!:D
 
I had a friend (worked a music store that did not carry PRA) tell me that I really needed a Paul Reed Smith guitar. I had never heard of this Paul Reed guy, So I said "yeah, whatever". He said "Dude, They are the best guitars on the planet". Again, I said "whatever, Got any LPs today". He told me that he'd love to sell me ANOTHER guitar, but I should go home & check them out. That night I jumped on Ebay for the 1st time ever. I came across a brand new Matteo Blue CU22 & just had to have. I mean, He said they were the best ever. I did a "buy it now" & 4 days later I had me a brand new 2002 CU22 the played easier than anything I had ever played. That was about ......... PRS guitars ago. Note I am too embarrassed to estimate how many I have owned.........:eek:

I think all PRSi go through Markie's hands at some point.
 
Decided I wanted to buy 1(ha ha)really good guitar so I started looking around. Even living in Pittsburgh at the time most of the stores sold the same brands. I did check out a us made jackson but wasn't impressed. I was looking for something no one else was playing. In 89 not many were playing prs so I went to pianos and stuff near Pittsburgh and ended up with the 89 CE and haven't looked back

That's still my local store. Bought my first PRS there in 2004. Played my first one there a long time before that. If I didn't already have a SC 594, I would have bought one there Saturday.
 
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