23 Frets - why not?

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  1. Dirty_Boogie

    Dirty_Boogie Still got the ol' tagger on it

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    Ok, a silly question that I've been too embarrassed to ask my entire guitar-playing life... Do 23-fret guitars exist? If not, why not? I have a Strat with 21 frets, a couple of PRSi with 22, and a 24-fret Epi.

    One of those life-long mysteries - enlighten me please. :rolleyes:
     
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  2. shimmilou

    shimmilou New Member

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    For those times when 22 isn’t enough, and 24 is just too much? Sure, why not? lol
     
  3. Dusty Chalk

    Dusty Chalk alberngruppenführer

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    That's odd.
    snicker
     
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  4. Andrew Paul

    Andrew Paul New Member

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    Hmmmmmmmm never thought of that before... I prefer 24 frets, two octaves per string, funny thing is Don’t really use those two extra frets very often. A 25 inch scale 24 fret PRS I know where I’m at without looking, I’ve been playing one for so long.
     
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  5. elvis

    elvis Hamfisted String Banger

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    21 is a vintage Fender thing. Probably for a practical manufacturing reason, knowing a bit about Leo.

    Most have 22, which gets you D fretted and E or F bent.

    24 gets you E fretted, up to G bent.

    I have seen as many as 27. Actually, I think I saw 30 once.

    What would be the purpose of a 23rd fret? Sounds like the 19th hole.
     
  6. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    I love the 19th hole. I don't mind going 2 over!

    As for guitars, how about Uli Jon Roth's Sky Guitar....30 frets, I think. Half steps up to 35 frets.
     
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  7. mojo1fan

    mojo1fan New Member

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    Because 23 is a prime number.
     
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  8. RaySachs

    RaySachs New Member

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    I've never given any thought to how many frets a guitar has. On my Strat, 21 works for me, on my tele and 594 22 work fine. I very rarely venture up past the 17th or 18th anyway. I guess it's the old lousy golfer in me. I've never really liked more than 22 because I don't like what it does to pickup spacing...

    -Ray
     
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  9. Dusty Chalk

    Dusty Chalk alberngruppenführer

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  10. django49

    django49 New Member

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    At least one.......
    [​IMG]WalkerPhantom
    There are a few fairly unique things about this one.
     
  11. Fullmoon 1971

    Fullmoon 1971 New Member

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    I used to have a hamer with 27 frets
    [​IMG]

    I'll always wanted one of these though the late 80's early 90's washburn's
    Washburn EC-29 & EC-36
    [​IMG]
     
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  12. jak3af3r

    jak3af3r New Member

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    I heard or read somewhere that guitars used to have 21 frets because they were accompanying wind instruments that usually are in a "flat" key ab, Bb, Eb, etc. And when rock was becoming more popular 22 frets became the norm since keys like E, A, G, and D were more common.

    I have an ovation with 22 full frets and a half neck width 23rd fret which seems odd and I never use it.
     
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  13. JJJ

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    curved board ends are cheating!
     
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  14. eclecticsynergy

    eclecticsynergy PRS user since '87

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    Way cool guitar!
     
  15. eclecticsynergy

    eclecticsynergy PRS user since '87

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    Wait, isn't the number 23 sacred to Lovecraft's unholy ancient gods? You'd really need a thirteen-necked multidimensional guitar to do it justice...
     
  16. elvis

    elvis Hamfisted String Banger

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    Call of the Cthulhu...
     
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  17. markd21

    markd21 New Member

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    Back in 2013 the Jackson Custom Shop (?!?!) built AND shipped a 23 fret Kelly to a dude. It was a screw-up. I don't remember if the guy kept it or not - there are threads out there about it.

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. garrett

    garrett Not a New Member

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    Little-known luthier Paul Reed Smith experimented with 26 and 27 frets in the early 80's.

    23 seems awkward for some reason, but I feel the same about 21.
     
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    garrett Not a New Member

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    I've been thinking about this all day! I've been learning a bunch of old blues lately and a ton of that stuff is in C or F, especially when there are horns. 21 frets would've made sense and been perfectly fine in those bands.
     
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  20. Alnus Rubra

    Alnus Rubra Loving nature’s wonders

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    I’ve a 25 fret guitar! I’m assuming that’s fairly unusual!

    “You are unusual” says, Les, Howie, Scott etc. etc. The list goes on and on and on and on!:confused:
     
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