Mark Ray
The RockTrain
- Joined
- Jun 19, 2012
- Messages
- 975
Not meDid anyone mention anything about PRS getting it right with the Dragon I’s yet?
Not meDid anyone mention anything about PRS getting it right with the Dragon I’s yet?
You’re right. I have a Goldtop P22 from 2012 with the 5310’s. If I needed to change stuff on it I’d probably just sell it and buy another PRS.Them being too dark is exactly what I experienced this week. I don't know how I never noticed it before. I have played the guitar at several gigs and don't remember it standing out. I have been trying some different overdrive pedals out that I have to prepare to reconfigure my pedal board a little and noticed it. It really stood out when comparing to a couple of other guitars and running through several different pedals. At this point I am thinking I am either going to have to swap the pickups or just know that guitar is dark and only use it when I can adjust the amp specifically for it's tone. I am a little hesitant to change the pickups because it is a special run guitar that is in a low number of builds.
This might be worth a try. I was wondering what I might be able to do with a cap or resistor to make this better.If you have to much bass in your neck pickup, you can add a .047 orange drop cap in series and attach 1 side of the cap to the hot wire of the pickup and the other side of the cap to where you unsoldered the hot wire from.
On my 5310 neck pu, I’ve got it close to the strings….
The .047 cap is a great solution. Getting rid of wooly bass should clear up a lot of the mids and highs that get maskedThis might be worth a try. I was wondering what I might be able to do with a cap or resistor to make this better.
I think I have a pack of .047 Orange Drops in the parts bin too.The .047 cap is a great solution. Getting rid of wooly bass should clear up a lot of the mids and highs that get masked
The .047 cap is a great solution. Getting rid of wooly bass should clear up a lot of the mids and highs that get masked
I think I have a pack of .047 Orange Drops in the parts bin too.
The .047 cap is a great solution. Getting rid of wooly bass clears up the mids & high end..This might be worth a try. I was wondering what I might be able to do with a cap or resistor to make this better.
I put a set of uncovered \m/ in mine and it’s quite possibly my best sounding guitar.You’re right. I have a Goldtop P22 from 2012 with the 5310’s. If I needed to change stuff on it I’d probably just sell it and buy another PRS.
Now that’s an idea! What genre of music do you play @Dimebag11 ?I put a set of uncovered \m/ in mine and it’s quite possibly my best sounding guitar.
Metal to be honest, though they have a ton of mids!Now that’s an idea! What genre of music do you play @Dimebag11 ?
It’s got more mids than the Tremonti, at least it feels that way. Squishier and more fun to play, kinda like a Suhr Aldrich.Tons of mids are good! Even for a Bluesrock guy I love the Tremonti bridge pickup for that reason. A bit hot, but that‘s what a treble bleed cap/resistor is for. Or a Dragon 1
I thought yesterday about measuring the pickups in the guitar but haven't done it yet. I am very fond of the 57/08 and DGT pickups. I have 57/08s in many of my PRS guitars. Some I put them in and others the guitars I bought came stock with them. I like the DGT pickups as well. These pickups really suit my needs very well. My P22 trem has uncovered 57/08s in it. I am really wishing this guitar had them in it.The .047 cap is a great solution. Getting rid of wooly bass clears up the mids & high end..
I just measured the 53/10’s on my P22….
treble pickup is 8.9K
bass pickup is 8.2K….. a bit hot for a neck, hence the darker sound. Neck on DGT’s are 7.3k which is perfect..
Raising the screws on the pickup will bring out more clarity as well…
Pickup adjustments make a big difference in tones especially with the 53/10’s….. You and I have the same guitar, built the same year. Mine’s a Goldtop stoptail……best of luckI thought yesterday about measuring the pickups in the guitar but haven't done it yet. I am very fond of the 57/08 and DGT pickups. I have 57/08s in many of my PRS guitars. Some I put them in and others the guitars I bought came stock with them. I like the DGT pickups as well. These pickups really suit my needs very well. My P22 trem has uncovered 57/08s in it. I am really wishing this guitar had them in it.
I may end up swapping the pickups in this P22. It really would be the perfect stop tail HH guitar for my uses. I love the look and feel of it. However, if I can just add a cap to the wiring and fix it that way, that is a more attractive solution. I had planned on adjusting the pickups when I get a chance to see if I can fix it that way as well. That will be my first attempt. I will try the cap if the adjustments don't do it. I want to spend more time on the bridge pickup as well. I was not loving that one either. With this guitar, I may consider sending it to the PTC and paying the higher price to have them do the work since it has the piezo system in it and it is an uncommon build of guitar.
I was reading in THE PRS ELECTRIC GUITAR BOOK by Dave Burrluck, that original McCartys used two Dragon neck pickups.My two cents into this, I have a ‘98 McCarty I put some 57/08s in and I really like them. Clear but warm vintage tone! Then I bought a ‘07 Hardtail CU22 and someone down the line put older McCarty Treble and Bass in it and I LOVE that guitar and the sound I get out if it. So much so that I have a S2 594 that I sought out and put older McCarty pups in and they sound dull and boring. Not sure if it’s the pickups or the pickups in the guitar itself. I was bummed they didn’t sound more like the set that’s in my CU22.
It seems to be that the team at PRS have learned so much about pickups ever since they studied John Mayer's pickups and others on their analytical machines. Getting old pickups, unwinding them, having them tested and really analyzing them. Paul seems to look at pickups that he can now EQ to get the sound the wants out of them. I had not been a big fan of their pickups in the 90's and I know many that swapped them out for something else back then. In a more recent video, he talked about not needing to go single coil to get a single coil sound. We can see this in the prototype Telecaster guitar we see some people using on stage. The DGT to me sounds like a humbucker Tele already. It will be interesting to see what they come up with next.
What do you think, do you prefer the older pickups they had in the 80's and 90's, or the ones today?
Are they both identical pickups? About 8K? Maybe a little higher like 8.1K?My two cents into this, I have a ‘98 McCarty I put some 57/08s in and I really like them. Clear but warm vintage tone! Then I bought a ‘07 Hardtail CU22 and someone down the line put older McCarty Treble and Bass in it and I LOVE that guitar and the sound I get out if it. So much so that I have a S2 594 that I sought out and put older McCarty pups in and they sound dull and boring. Not sure if it’s the pickups or the pickups in the guitar itself. I was bummed they didn’t sound more like the set that’s in my CU22.
Are they both identical pickups? About 8K? Maybe a little higher like 8.1K?
If so they are Dragon neck pickups.
That's the great thing about the Dragon I set: best hard rock pickup ever in the Dragon I treble, and one of the very best PAF neck pickups in the Dragon I bass.Where'd you get this info from? I've seen it said here and there, but I've also read otherwise. PRS does recycle pickups, sometimes with minor tweaks, so it's possible, but do we have confirmation from a credible source?