Bummed NGD - SE Neck profiles

Discussion in 'Electric Instruments' started by Blakemore, Oct 5, 2018.

  1. Blakemore

    Blakemore New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2017
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    39
    Long story short - I own a Zach Myers SE in quilt burst that I absolutely love. I play in a few different tunings so I bought a second Zach Myers in Trampas Green to go with the burst and it arrived today.

    The necks on the two guitars are waaay different. The Quilt burst neck sits right between a cozy wide fat and wide thin. (aka its on the thinner side of most wide fats and it is absolutely amazing to play) The new trampas green has a super thick wide fat neck. Measuring the depth at the 12th fret we have

    Quilt - 23.2mm
    Trampas- 24.3mm

    Only 1mm difference but with the added mm and much more shoulder on the trampas, it is a night and day difference in my hand.

    I understand these are most likely hand sanded so there will be slight variances but I never expected this much. I used to own 3 Tremonti Customs and they were all spot on.

    I guess this one will go up for sale and I'll just have to wait until I find one in person that has the same neck.
    Sincerely

    -bummed NGD
     
  2. Glide-bpm

    Glide-bpm We were small but we were slow...

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2016
    Messages:
    1,814
    Likes Received:
    3,008
    Dang... That sux.....
     
  3. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2015
    Messages:
    17,218
    Likes Received:
    22,035
    Sad face....
     
    Glide-bpm likes this.
  4. WEDGE

    WEDGE Almost was a FG22 owner..

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2012
    Messages:
    3,213
    Likes Received:
    1,745
    Yeah I got lucky with my Bernie because the neck is thinner than some I have tried, definitely more variations in carve than a core.
     
    dogrocketp and Blakemore like this.
  5. garrett

    garrett Lurkin'

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    5,128
    Likes Received:
    4,980
    Variation due to hand sanding is always a factor.

    You got lucky that someone over sanded the quilt one. The Trampas one is where Wide/Fat should normally be at the 12th fret.
     
    Tim S likes this.
  6. Blakemore

    Blakemore New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2017
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    39
    Yeah, I understand the variations will differ with sanding but just a Murphy's Law bummer that my first Zach Myers experience is with a neck that will be really tough to find a match for. I think the thing that surprised me the most was the shoulder difference between the two necks.
    Good to know that 24mm -ish is the norm for the wide/fat thickness, thank you.
     
  7. jxe

    jxe babe en der wood

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    1,200
    Likes Received:
    1,448
    they should put curb weight and neck measurements right on the tag.
     
  8. Rider1260

    Rider1260 New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2013
    Messages:
    2,334
    Likes Received:
    2,746
    If you really like the guitar email PTC and have the neck reshaped it will be expensive but the work will be top notch
     
  9. xjbebop

    xjbebop Yippy ki yay!

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2014
    Messages:
    1,523
    Likes Received:
    975
    Fatter/thicker necks = more tone....
     
    sergiodeblanc likes this.
  10. Blakemore

    Blakemore New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2017
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    39
    Maybe so, but if you can't comfortably play the guitar then the tone from your fingers doesn't translate either.
     
    dogrocketp likes this.
  11. WEDGE

    WEDGE Almost was a FG22 owner..

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2012
    Messages:
    3,213
    Likes Received:
    1,745
    I spent and wasted soooo much money over the years chasing this misconception.......found I didn’t like the huge fat necks and flipped many at a loss. Buy what feels best to you and make better sounding music because of it, most of tone is in your hands.
     
    11top, tyfu20, dogrocketp and 2 others like this.
  12. Blakemore

    Blakemore New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2017
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    39
    Not a bad idea. Definitely wonder how expensive that would be. Also, not even sure what profile to tell them to re-shape to.
     
  13. shinksma

    shinksma What? I get a title?

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2014
    Messages:
    3,751
    Likes Received:
    3,052
    It might be cheaper, or darned near close enough, to buy a used guitar outright that has the profile you want than to get the PTC to reshape it, and you'd still have the other "too fat" guitar. And by buying used, you can probably find them to try in person at your local guitar stores every now and then. Or at least call up the shop if you find one in an online inventory and see if they have a competent-enough sales-rep/tech that can measure the neck for you. Reverb may also be an avenue - I see 5 Trampas Green ZMs there within 10% of $500. Contact the seller(s) and ask if they can measure the neck.
     
  14. elvis

    elvis Hamfisted String Banger

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2016
    Messages:
    1,946
    Likes Received:
    2,358
    Why not reshape it yourself? And tung-oil the back. Could be the best neck ever.
     
    sergiodeblanc and bodia like this.
  15. Guitpicky

    Guitpicky New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2017
    Messages:
    419
    Likes Received:
    743
    If you like everything else about it try playing it some more before you return it. Your initial reaction was based on expectations. See if it's the same after getting past that and giving it a chance... it might just grow on you :)
     
    Rusty Chos likes this.
  16. garrett

    garrett Lurkin'

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    5,128
    Likes Received:
    4,980
    Just dawned on me you're in Nashville. Surely there are some good luthiers there who could reshape it. Bring the quilt top one with you. They should be able to measure it and reshape the other one to get it close. They can either respray it for you, or you can just get some Tru-Oil to seal it and you're good.
     
    bodia likes this.
  17. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Get in, loser, we’re going shopping.

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2012
    Messages:
    19,682
    Likes Received:
    27,076
    This.
     
    Rusty Chos likes this.
  18. 11top

    11top Cousin Eddie's cousin

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2012
    Messages:
    6,631
    Likes Received:
    14,505
    That
     
    Rusty Chos likes this.
  19. Tim S

    Tim S King of the barre chord

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2018
    Messages:
    143
    Likes Received:
    239
    Girth makes'em scream (or so I'm told). :(
     
  20. Coop

    Coop That one guy

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2013
    Messages:
    230
    Likes Received:
    188
    The other thing?
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice