The Internet Kind Of Sucks.
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[paraphrasong from memory...]
"I really like working in hospitals except for all of the sick people." - Frank Burns - M*A*S*H*
"I really like working in hospitals except for all of the sick people." - Frank Burns - M*A*S*H*
CVS
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I think that the internet has been good for a lot of folks (including me) Why?
1. I can learn how to fix things
2. I can learn songs much faster
3. I can hear all sorts of different types of music that I would never been exposed to before the internet existed
4. It is a means for people around the wold to discuss topics and communicate their views (especially those who live in politically corrupt countries or where freedom as we we know it in the US is not a "right")
5. I can conduct business / go shopping without ever leaving my house
6. It has helped educate people (me) in lots of different ways (some of which are listed above - but many non music arts related areas as well - example medical issues)
I am sure if I take more time, I can come up with more reasons
There are downsides as well but the positive far outweigh the negatives (IMHO)
1. I can learn how to fix things
2. I can learn songs much faster
3. I can hear all sorts of different types of music that I would never been exposed to before the internet existed
4. It is a means for people around the wold to discuss topics and communicate their views (especially those who live in politically corrupt countries or where freedom as we we know it in the US is not a "right")
5. I can conduct business / go shopping without ever leaving my house
6. It has helped educate people (me) in lots of different ways (some of which are listed above - but many non music arts related areas as well - example medical issues)
I am sure if I take more time, I can come up with more reasons
There are downsides as well but the positive far outweigh the negatives (IMHO)
Yeah... I know you're kind of goofing on us Les... You have to admit though that you'd not likely be able to reach an audience of a few hundred or so with your dead granny's posthumous dating life without the internet, would you?
Well, you see, there's the problem with the internet, right there! A person like me can reach a few hundred people!
Come on, why on Earth should a lunatic like me be able to publish opinions on anything?
Makes no sense, right?
Stephen Rudnick
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I do not have a lot of computer savvy. In the 1980's I worked for the NYSE and before that, Merrill Lynch, who had computers, but they were specific to those places and the knowledge was useless outside of work.
I have a computer at work, or I wouldn't be able to be here. Other then that, I have no home computer, so it is like a home away from home for me.
While I have read about really bad internet experiences and people, I was able to improve my musical gear, which I feel has been a positive for me, and I use youtube for all sorts of things, but mostly seeing groups or songs I would not be able to see at home.
Also, being with others on a forum where we all share similar interests has been informative, helpful, and allows me to meet others whom I would never get to be able to speak with and learn from.
When I didn't have internet, I didn't miss it because I didn't know what I was missing. While I probably could get by without it, and a cell phone, I do prefer to have it, as it is so convenient, and makes everything come to me, rather then having to go looking for something only locally, or through previously known sources.
As an example, I have been shopping with Dave's Guitar Shop since 1994. I had heard about this store but that was through a friend. To deal with Dave's I had to call, and speak with someone who would then have to find what I was interested in and send it upon approval. The telephone call was an expense I was always thinking about as it was based on minutes used and long distance rates. The more I had to call different stores, the more expensive the purchase would be.
My first smart phone allowed me to do more on line shopping and sight-seeing but for the limited gigs I was signed up for having per month. Now is the first time I have a cell phone with unlimited usage, but I have become so used to being careful how much time I spend on it, that I don't take full advantage of it.
However, the best thing about the net is having met so many nice people all over the world, with whom I may converse freely whenever. THAT alone has made it better for me then anything else.
da
I have a computer at work, or I wouldn't be able to be here. Other then that, I have no home computer, so it is like a home away from home for me.
While I have read about really bad internet experiences and people, I was able to improve my musical gear, which I feel has been a positive for me, and I use youtube for all sorts of things, but mostly seeing groups or songs I would not be able to see at home.
Also, being with others on a forum where we all share similar interests has been informative, helpful, and allows me to meet others whom I would never get to be able to speak with and learn from.
When I didn't have internet, I didn't miss it because I didn't know what I was missing. While I probably could get by without it, and a cell phone, I do prefer to have it, as it is so convenient, and makes everything come to me, rather then having to go looking for something only locally, or through previously known sources.
As an example, I have been shopping with Dave's Guitar Shop since 1994. I had heard about this store but that was through a friend. To deal with Dave's I had to call, and speak with someone who would then have to find what I was interested in and send it upon approval. The telephone call was an expense I was always thinking about as it was based on minutes used and long distance rates. The more I had to call different stores, the more expensive the purchase would be.
My first smart phone allowed me to do more on line shopping and sight-seeing but for the limited gigs I was signed up for having per month. Now is the first time I have a cell phone with unlimited usage, but I have become so used to being careful how much time I spend on it, that I don't take full advantage of it.
However, the best thing about the net is having met so many nice people all over the world, with whom I may converse freely whenever. THAT alone has made it better for me then anything else.
da
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The pretty much only thing I dislike about the internet is the manner it has lowered manners and ability to speak to others without casting aspersions on one another. It seems everyday I go on a news site and the level of "Tards" and general nastiness toward one another really seems to reflect what people would otherwise not say to someone face to face.Someone mentioned the ragging on artists, yet the ragger has no resume or possible talent to begin with to even measure against the artist. Yet, it seems it's partially addictive as in I have sworn off sites due to content or rudeness only to find myself a month or two later, "sneaking" back in and see something that makes me want to comment immediately, yet I have new found ability to refrain from those sites. I know this has already been said in multiple posts by multiple posters but it seems we all share at least a partial agreement on the rudeness and divisive nature of the net.
This is really what I was bitchin' about initially.
aristotle
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I still maintain that it isn't the medium, it's the modality. You'd be surprised at what went on in the 70s between ham radio operators. Give people a somewhat anonymous outlet to reach a group of people and you get what you get. The only difference between today and a generation ago is that the outlet is more universally available.
I'm much less bothered by the human interaction component of a fully connected networked world than I am about how fragile the systems are that are built up around it. Here in my area at least, there isn't a grocery store or gas station or bank or dentists office that wouldn't be shut down indefinitely if their connection went away permanently.
The good news is that neither my DGT nor my MDT require a network or software updates, or whatever, to operate. The bad news is that the power company would go belly up, so I'd better figure out how to solar power my amp...
I'm much less bothered by the human interaction component of a fully connected networked world than I am about how fragile the systems are that are built up around it. Here in my area at least, there isn't a grocery store or gas station or bank or dentists office that wouldn't be shut down indefinitely if their connection went away permanently.
The good news is that neither my DGT nor my MDT require a network or software updates, or whatever, to operate. The bad news is that the power company would go belly up, so I'd better figure out how to solar power my amp...
Absolutely. The medium has nothing to do with it. It's people!
They've found pornographic graffiti inside the walls of Egyptian temples mocking the pharaohs, made during construction.
In ancient Rome, rumors were passed by handwritten scrolls and graffiti.
In the late 1800s, there was "yellow journalism."
When I was a kid, we made idiotic "phony phone calls."
People are lunatics, it's part of our DNA*. I don't exclude myself from being guilty of contributing to the cornucopia of nonsense manufactured for consumption on the web.
*As in, "The gods want us to kill your tribe and take over your village." "Yeah? This means war!"
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bodia
Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved
Great point and rather disturbing. To add a real life example: The Mrs. and I were out for breakfast a couple of Sundays back, and the place was having problem with their computer system. Hostess says, "No computer, no bill." So, we left a $25 dollar tip for the waitress (what our breakfast would have cost), and went on our way. I dunno, I appreciate the free breakfast, but......
veinbuster
Zombie Three, DFZ
We went to a place that had a similar problem, but after a few minutes they decided they could write out a bill by hand.
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