alantig
Zombie Four, DFZ
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Two screws?
Looks like five screws, maybe six.
New tuning buttons
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Looks like five screws, maybe six.
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f-hole lover
or maybe 12?
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f-hole lover
OMG I never noticed that the Phase III's had 2 screws... hopefully they would be a drop in replacement then.Two screws?
OK I feel a little better about them now then.
dkilpatrick
Makes guitar faces
There’s a bunch of Dusty hard tails in dealers right now. Those are killer specs for heavy music.
Prs Mods too
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f-hole lover
I thought he had beat them! Oh well.... I do trust that Paul knows best.
bodia
Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved
I grabbed one from Brian's a few months ago. Fun guitar.
Ovibos
Naughty Wood Librarian
TONE plastic.
DougGuitar
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rickcard71
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Don't like them. The DGT style is the best looking IMO. Yes, I agree they are trying to make things more vintage like a Gibson. They also did it with the SC594 knob layout which I hate. The old SC layout looked great and made more sense.
Alnus Rubra
Loving nature’s wonders
Check the plans at the end of the video.
Monahan
New Member
I like these new versions mainly because it's a unique shape.
Lately I'm drawn more and more to the models that feature unique attributes, such as the mini-humbuckers on the Paul's Guitar, NF53 pickups, etc. There's so much "sameness" in the world of guitars that it's refreshing to see things that are a bit different-- even if it's just a tuner button
Maybe I'll look for a set of the new ones to swap on my DGT, as that's the only thing on the DGT I really don't like
Lately I'm drawn more and more to the models that feature unique attributes, such as the mini-humbuckers on the Paul's Guitar, NF53 pickups, etc. There's so much "sameness" in the world of guitars that it's refreshing to see things that are a bit different-- even if it's just a tuner button
Maybe I'll look for a set of the new ones to swap on my DGT, as that's the only thing on the DGT I really don't like
ViperDoc
Plugged In.
This doesn't feel like an improvement. The phase 3's are where it's at. No idea why they needed to go away. My 2021 SC594 doesn't stay in tune as well as my 2017 DC594. And why is that?....
Monahan
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Maybe I need to watch the video again, but as I understood it he's only talking about changing the buttons... The deletion of locking tuners on non-trem models has been a thing for a while now.
ViperDoc
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Not according to this:
I mean, WTF is that?
EDIT: Have they always had two screws per tuner? I thought they only had one. Maybe I just never looked, like ever!
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SinSir
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Monahan
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Not according to this:
I mean, WTF is that?
Those are Phase iii locking with the new buttons... right?
My DGT
The PS JM:
The only difference is the buttons... I think...
ViperDoc
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I edited my post while you responded. If they've always had 2 set screws, this guy has never noticed. HUH!Those are Phase iii locking with the new buttons... right?
My DGT
The PS JM:
The only difference is the buttons... I think...
drgordonfreeman
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I actually like the new tuner buttons. I’m the opposite: not sure I ever really got along with the aluminum tuners.
I have a much bigger issue with the fact the Custom 24’s are all routed for that freaking goofy shaped / proprietary shaped Paul’s pickup. It’s a great sounding pickup, and I could see myself keeping it in there; however, if there ever came a time I wanted to change the sound of the pickups, I wouldn’t be able to. I find that unacceptable on a $5,000 guitar. I’m quite sure they could have made Paul’s pickups fit a standard-sized route. This is probably the only deal breaker regarding the new changes, and it’s the one thing that would prevent me from purchasing a new Custom 24.
Going back to the tuners, if you want to swap the new tuners for Phase IIIs — although, it seems the only difference between the new tuners and Phase IIIs is the button — it looks like it’ll be a direct swap.
Some reference pics below.
All my Private Stocks have Phase III’s with ebony wood buttons. Top view:
Back view showing two screws per tuner:
I have an SE Hollowbody II from a couple years ago. Those tuners are non-locking, I’m guessing because it’s a stoptail. Incidentally, it stays in tune perfectly. I’ve maybe had to retune this thing twice on this pair of strings. Nonetheless, these tuners only have one screw per tuner.
Front view:
Back view showing one screw per tuner:
I have a much bigger issue with the fact the Custom 24’s are all routed for that freaking goofy shaped / proprietary shaped Paul’s pickup. It’s a great sounding pickup, and I could see myself keeping it in there; however, if there ever came a time I wanted to change the sound of the pickups, I wouldn’t be able to. I find that unacceptable on a $5,000 guitar. I’m quite sure they could have made Paul’s pickups fit a standard-sized route. This is probably the only deal breaker regarding the new changes, and it’s the one thing that would prevent me from purchasing a new Custom 24.
Going back to the tuners, if you want to swap the new tuners for Phase IIIs — although, it seems the only difference between the new tuners and Phase IIIs is the button — it looks like it’ll be a direct swap.
Some reference pics below.
All my Private Stocks have Phase III’s with ebony wood buttons. Top view:
Back view showing two screws per tuner:
I have an SE Hollowbody II from a couple years ago. Those tuners are non-locking, I’m guessing because it’s a stoptail. Incidentally, it stays in tune perfectly. I’ve maybe had to retune this thing twice on this pair of strings. Nonetheless, these tuners only have one screw per tuner.
Front view:
Back view showing one screw per tuner:
