Do you think PRS could make their own version of a combo practice amp like a katana?
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Tony M.
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I feel that if they did it right it would be priced far above
the market those types of amplifiers mainly cater to.
the market those types of amplifiers mainly cater to.
JasonE
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I am sure they could do something. However, it seems like a departure from where Paul likes to go. I don't think he has done anything in the digital world. He seems to be more of an analog and tube amp guy.
There is the Waves PRS Supermodels plugin that Paul talked about in a video and apparently helped with and gave Waves permission to use the PRS name, as well as the Waves GTR plugin. So if you need digital PRS stuff, there you are.
Oh, I have them. They suck. Because they're modelers!
To the OP:
PRS makes real-deal tube amps for pro players. Even their SE stuff is suitable for pros. Modeling amps, on the other hand, are suitable for, well, maybe people who are hard of hearing or who don't know the difference, such as children. I bought my 8 year old grandson a Fender modeling amp. That's who they're really suitable for.
Yes. I know.
What I just said is a very, very unpopular thing. People are all, 'modelers', 'modelers', 'modelers'.
Truth is, quantity (but it has a zillion models!) is not quality. It'll never be quality.
Bob Moog was once asked why he didn't make digital stuff, and said one needs to hear the electrons flowing. He could hear them. I can hear them. You can hear them. Don't be a sucker.
If you need a practice amp, buy a Fender Princeton and have at it.
"Why do you have these plugins, Les?"
"Scratch pads for ideas late at night. They also came with a Waves bundle I have for studio use. And yes, plugins don't compare to hardware, but I am forced to recall mixes by clients all the dang time, and plugins make that possible to do accurately. However, it's an unpleasant compromise. I hate myself for doing it. Please just shoot me."
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Are you saying all modelers suck? What about profilers?
They suck a little less, but they suck. That's the only reason I don't own one. And I've had them here in studio world. Bah. Bleccchhh.
The digital gear I use daily instead of my old analog console. outboard gear and synths completely sucks, except for micropitch delays. I like micropitch delays.
In fact, my work sucks so who cares. And here we are on the digital internet where even crazy people like me are allowed to say things, and that sucks, too.
The world was a much better place pre-digital.
OK, except for shopping and porn. But whatever.
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I agree the world was a much better place pre digital. Same stuff was going on as now, we just hd no way of knowing. In reference to musical gear, I will take a Kemper over any other device, lumped into that class, any day of the week. The Kemper, if used correct, will give you back what you give it. The others, not so much.They suck a little less, but they suck. That's the only reason I don't own one. And I've had them here in studio world. Bah. Bleccchhh.
The digital gear I use daily instead of my old analog console. outboard gear and synths completely sucks, except for micropitch delays. I like micropitch delays.
In fact, my work sucks so who cares. And here we are on the digital internet where even crazy people like me are allowed to say things, and that sucks, too.
The world was a much better place pre-digital.
OK, except for shopping and porn. But whatever.
I've tried the Kemper and disagree, because the sound lacks the movement/vibe and nuance of real amps.
However -
It makes sense to use what suits your creative purposes.
Orchestras are not falling all over themselves to play my orchestral work. A studio day with one is 60 grand or so. So I use a digital orchestra. But it's not the same.
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I have found a good capture set up right to be hard to differentiate sound wise than the amp. If your input is too hot on the Kemper and some other adjustments are not tweaked appropriately it can sound terrible. I think the Kemper is more realistic than the Axe or others for that reason.
Oh, I completely agree that the Kemper is the state of the art in modeling style amps. No question. If I was still playing out, I'd probably get one just to save my back.
Hey, I'd still be unhappy, but I'd do it!
What's missing? The non-linearities of tube and analog gear. It's less dynamic, more static in terms of what you hear. That, for me, is the magic of tube or analog gear. The sound changes a little over time as signal goes through it, and in a different way than it changes even with the combination of convolution/sampling/algorithms in the Kemper.
Part of this, admittedly, is the style of music I play, which is heavily dependent on the tubes transitioning from clean to hair in the midst of a note, etc.
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I mean, they did make the sonzera amps, which are in the same price ballpark as the katana artist.
I don't think it makes sense for PRS to stoop to the same price point as a Squier Affinity and a Katana. But for a very nice beginner rig, an SE and a Sonzera could keep someone satisfied for years, and it's similar price to a MIM Fender or a nice Epiphone plus a Katana Artist.
I don't think it makes sense for PRS to stoop to the same price point as a Squier Affinity and a Katana. But for a very nice beginner rig, an SE and a Sonzera could keep someone satisfied for years, and it's similar price to a MIM Fender or a nice Epiphone plus a Katana Artist.
Tony M.
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Disclaimer:
Remember, I know nothing.
I think that what Les has been trying to say but is too nice to say outright is:
"Modelers sound like the guy who guards the harem for the Sultan."
Remember, I know nothing.
I think that what Les has been trying to say but is too nice to say outright is:
"Modelers sound like the guy who guards the harem for the Sultan."
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I think that what Les has been trying to say but is too nice to say outright is:
"Modelers sound like the guy who guards the harem for the Sultan."
11top
Cousin Eddie's cousin
Yeah, what do these lightweights know?
(Ok maybe not Michael)
And don’t tell me these none of these guys really use them, cause I know better.
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You and me both!
Yeah, what do these lightweights know?
(Ok maybe not Michael)
And don’t tell me these none of these guys really use them, cause I know better.
I still believe it is the most misunderstood piece of gear out there amongst the naysayers.
I kinda like that!Disclaimer:
Remember, I know nothing.
I think that what Les has been trying to say but is too nice to say outright is:
"Modelers sound like the guy who guards the harem for the Sultan."
Actually, I know that many of these guys do NOT record with them. They use them on tours to cut weight and therefore, tour costs.
Yeah, what do these lightweights know?
(Ok maybe not Michael)
And don’t tell me these none of these guys really use them, cause I know better.
I have my sources...
dmatthews
Dave's not here
They forgot to add Mark Knopfler
Yeah, what do these lightweights know?
(Ok maybe not Michael)
And don’t tell me these none of these guys really use them, cause I know better.
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