Why is this happening??

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  1. Andrew Paul

    Andrew Paul New Member

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    Never had this problem before. Screws are backing out of trem bridge. I own many PRS Core guitars and never had this problem before. What is going on, what am I doing wrong? [​IMG]
     
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  2. alantig

    alantig Sassyless pants

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    My guess is it’s just vibrations and very slightly looser screws. My CU22 soap bar does that with the high E as well - I’ve actually had it fall out a couple times and at least once had to search for the spring on a black and red textured carpet with not great lighting.
     
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  3. Tag

    Tag New Member

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    I strip them in there intentionally so those rascals are NEVER coming out!!

    ;)
     
  4. Andrew Paul

    Andrew Paul New Member

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    Maybe a very small amount of Loctite? Can’t imagine it would hurt sustain if the screws keep backing out anyway. Maybe it’s the brass screws ? It’s the only PRS I have with them.
     
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  5. Andrew Paul

    Andrew Paul New Member

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    Strip the?? I don’t understand
     
  6. merciful-evans

    merciful-evans New Member

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    me neither

    Would wrapping screws in plumbers tape help?
     
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  7. shallbe

    shallbe New Member

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    Yes. Or adding another set of springs. Squeeze 2 springs together and run the screw through both and tighten. There is not enough friction or force now.
     
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  8. Mike Duncan

    Mike Duncan DGT Club Vice President

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    I’ve had the same issue happen on three models over past few years.
     
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  9. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    Clear finger nail polish would work, as well.
     
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  10. Eddie kim

    Eddie kim New Member

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    So what did you do remedy the issue?
     
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  11. markie

    markie 11Top's personal Chauffeur

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    The springs keep tension on the screw to keep it from moving. The spring is not compacted enough to hold tension. You will need a longer spring or a stiffer spring. 2 springs might work if there is enough room, although they may bind together & you will not get the tension you need. My suggestion is the same spring that is 3/16 - 1/4" longer. I did have to do that once...........
     
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  12. Andrew Paul

    Andrew Paul New Member

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    Thanks for your reply. I received a PM suggesting I use a pickup spring cut longer than the bridge springs to create more tension. I’m going to try that. I have a few pickup springs in spare parts draw. I’ll let you all know how it works out after I do it.
     
  13. rnodern

    rnodern Just one more.....

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    I've had the same problem on the same string on the guitar in my avatar. Lost the screw and spring. Had to buy a new set of screws. I guess at least i have spares now..
     
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  14. Tag

    Tag New Member

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    Just try stretching the existing spring first.
     
  15. Tone-y

    Tone-y New Member

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    Hard to see in the picture, but is the saddle touching the bridge screw at the front?
     
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  16. Wakester

    Wakester Class Clown

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    I would recommend beeswax. Teflon tape will actually peel off as you are running the screw in.
     
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  17. Big Mike

    Big Mike Soon to be on a McCarty hunt..

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    Yeah just throw some Loctite on it.
     
  18. Andrew Paul

    Andrew Paul New Member

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    yes, the saddle "wondered" a bit after screw got loose throwing off the intonation. Had to re-position.
     
  19. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    You’ve got a screw loose.

    I know, but it was too hard to resist. :)
     
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  20. Ironwolf

    Ironwolf I'm a Dog! I do Dog Things!

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    Something is definitely wrong, certainly in your picture you have almost all of the saddles too far up. the saddles are hitting the tremolo mounting screws. There should be at least 3 or 4 mm before your saddle hits the tremolo screw.
    Once the saddles Have moved as far forward as possible the screw Spring will definitely have no tension on it. And then it will easily back out, especially if you reduce tension but a lot of divebombing.

    It seems to me like it needs a fresh set up, Take off all the strings move the saddles To the center position, it should be pretty much set up in the middle of their adjustable range to begin the setup. Restring it then tune, Level the tremolo correctly, if the tremolo is not leveled it can require an oddball saddle adjustment to get it intonated. it looks like it's been adjusted multiple times over the years it needs to start back to original factory middle-of-the-road settings, I think it might be a case of fine-tuning after fine-tuning after fine-tuning till it's really far out of whack. Those look like really extra heavy gauge strings too. those 11s? Your low E string is about correct near the middle of the saddles travel range. reset them all somewhere around that point.
    These are all just guesses the picture doesn't have all the right angles for a full judgment.
     

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