So what's your recording chain?

[sergiodeblanc]

It SSL is class compliant so it will record into Garage Band. the problem with Apple is (ok too many to mention) but it won't record into say Movie Maker or something, so what should be the EASY way to make a video with better sound, doesn't work.

Yeah, I find using my iPad for anything but watching porn more difficult than it should be.

 

[dmatthews]

It SSL is class compliant so it will record into Garage Band. the problem with Apple is (ok too many to mention) but it won't record into say Movie Maker or something, so what should be the EASY way to make a video with better sound, doesn't work.

Can you export the recording/stem and put it in your PC DAW?

 

[Deleted member 5962]

Can you export the recording/stem and put it in your PC DAW?

That's the issue... ipad and iphone both have good cameras. Both have things like "movie maker" that are made for doing videos, but apple won't let you use external devices to run sound into anything but Garage Band. I'm going to try again and see if there's a way to make it work in Movie Maker, but I read that you can't. If it would record the video from the camera and the sound from the SSL, then one step recording!

 

[dmatthews]

That's the issue... ipad and iphone both have good cameras. Both have things like "movie maker" that are made for doing videos, but apple won't let you use external devices to run sound into anything but Garage Band. I'm going to try again and see if there's a way to make it work in Movie Maker, but I read that you can't. If it would record the video from the camera and the sound from the SSL, then one step recording!

Maybe try this...

How to export GarageBand stems on iPad

Exporting GarageBand stems on iPad is not impossible. In fact, with the inexpensive AudioShare app, it's quite simple.

www.cultofmac.com

 

[Johnny Rigs]

I'm interested in doing a few videos. I'm trying to figure out the best signal chain for recording audio and video. I DO NOT want something elaborate, but was hoping for something better than sitting my iphone on a stand and using it for camera and just letting it's mic pic up the sound. I don't mind using the iphone video as I'm sure it's good enough. Just trying to figure a good way to record audio and video and sync them up in a DAW. Especially since my DAW is in a PC, not Mac. If I could record video and audio into Garage Band or something I'd just do it all in the ipad, but not sure how to do that.

Here’s a dumb question. Can you record the audio to DAW while also separately shooting on the iPhone? Then use the built-in audio track in the video to line up the higher quality DAW recording? That’s assuming your video editing app on PC can accept a new audio track.

 

[Deleted member 5962]

Maybe try this...

How to export GarageBand stems on iPad

Exporting GarageBand stems on iPad is not impossible. In fact, with the inexpensive AudioShare app, it's quite simple.

www.cultofmac.com

At that point, I’m having to use the DAW on the PC anyway… which I was trying to avoid. Seems there’d be a simple way to record video and audio at the same time into an Apple device, while using the external recording interface for the audio, but as usual, Apple won’t let you do that. That’s why I bought the cheapest model of IPad a few weeks ago, instead of springing for a nicer model. In fact, since we’re now in Apple rant mode, my old ipad are still works great… except that some apps will no longer work since I can’t get the latest iOS. So, I can’t watch Reds games on the fox sports app or ANY games on ESPN because both apps are now out of date and won’t do video any more. THAT is the only reason i even needed a new ipad. I get so fed up with apple that every time this happens, I swear it’s the last one, then I buy another one anyway like the moron I am.

 

[Deleted member 5962]

Here’s a dumb question. Can you record the audio to DAW while also separately shooting on the iPhone? Then use the built-in audio track in the video to line up the higher quality DAW recording? That’s assuming your video editing app on PC can accept a new audio track.

I’m probably going to have to do something like this. So…. Apple video and export it into my PC DAW…. That’s sort of my point. There doesn’t seem to be a simple way to do it in one device… I’d lose video quality if I just turned the laptop camera on and used that, but I may end up having to do that. Maybe I’ll link an external camera to it or something, somehow.

 

[Deli6505]

My current "A-Rig": for studio use, Synergy SYN-2 (with Friedman BE/BB & Bogner Uberschall modules) > Scarlett 18i20 interface > Logic Pro X; for live use, SYN-2 > Synergy 50/50 power amp > Mesa 4x12

"B-Rig": PRS MT-15 (first generation) > Two Notes Torpedo Captor X > Scarlett 18i20 > Logic Pro X

 

[goat-n-gitter]

I occasionally record full bands in my home studio, so I chose the Roland Studio Capture interface. 12 decent mic preamps, 4 additional line inputs. I run a pair of Golden Age Pre 73 MKIII Neve clone preamps into two of the line inputs, and a Behringer 16X4 mixer into the other two line inputs, for mixing hardware synths and running my old PodXT that I use to "scratchpad" guitar sounds and for some bass sounds. So I can do a full 16 tracks at once as needed.
My guitar rig is a Mesa MK V with a Line 6 Helix as my pedalboard/switching system/signal router (I rarely use it for modeling). I run the Mesa through my Two Notes Captor X into the Roland interface, or sometimes mic up my Mesa 4x12 cabinet.
I also sometimes use my Vox AC-30 or a couple of other older small tube amps mic'd (through one of the Neve clone pre's) or through the Captor X.
For a DAW, I still use Sonar Platinum. I started with Cakewalk before it even supported audio recording and I'm too lazy to learn a new DAW. I have started working some in Reaper, just in case Sonar becomes unsustainable. I was extremely pissed off when Gibson bought Sonar then killed it. I know BandLab resurrected it, but I still hate Gibson for this.
I have a decent selection of mics, including a pair of Warm Audio AKG 414 clones, a couple Rode NT-1's (used as drum overheads), lots of SM-57s, Oktava small condensers for hi-hat and acoustic guitars, an early Audio Technica AT-4033, AKG D-112, Sennheiser 421, AKG mini condensers for tom mics, and various live vocal mics

 

[Deleted member 5962]

Never heard of a slate. I used to clap so I could line the tracks up.

Ha, yep. I looked it up and it is. You done learned me something new. And that’s especially helpful since I don’t need to hook up a microphone to what I was going to record guitar to ask direct with. Or just do some chopchords like I did last time

 

[Moondog Wily]

Ha, yep. I looked it up and it is. You done learned me something new. And that’s especially helpful since I don’t need to hook up a microphone to what I was going to record guitar to ask direct with. Or just do some chopchords like I did last time

FYI DTR, when you are using different audio and video recording, the clap/slate/crunch chords is great to line things up, but I would put them at moments throughout the recording. Reason is, you can suffer from what I believe is called "drift" where the audio cycle/speed is slightly off from the video speed and near the end (especially if long) can become slightly un-synced. If you have your clap/slate/crunch chords throughout the piece, you can then easily check and even chop the audio and move it at those points when you see drift!

 

[Mike J.]

My gosh! Reading through this makes me realize how far behind I am and how much I don't know.

Myself, I'm bare bones simple. Guitar goes into my Pod Go which then goes into my old (and getting shaky) Tascam DP02 8 track recorder. I also play bass and will also lay down a vocal line. I used an Alesis drum machine for the longest time until it fizzed out on me. When finished I would run the Outputs of the recorder into an Alesis Nano Compressor into a CD burner of which doesn't work anymore. Yep, this stuff is old like me!

I would like to upgrade some things because it's all wearing down. Lot's of buttons on the Tascam aren't functioning as well as what they used to. But I'll tell you, for as bare bones and primitive as it is people were always surprised from the quality of sound I managed to get out of what I have. I like how Frank Zappa put it: "Learn to make music with what you've got." So I did.

As said, I would like to upgrade but I don't want to go through a miles long learning curve. I'm not what you would call a computer person either but it doesn't hurt to expand ones horizons...as long as the horizon isn't too far away!

Things have changed so much and I really don't know what most stuff that's available does. I don't even know what certain terms mean. DAW? What the heck's that? Sure I could look it up but as of right now I couldn't tell you what it is if my life depended on it.

So, what would you recommend for an old guy like who is not at all hip to what's available these days? I do have a laptop which I bought in 2013. It's an HP with Windows 10. I don't even know if anything would work with it for recording.

 

[Deleted member 5962]

FYI DTR, when you are using different audio and video recording, the clap/slate/crunch chords is great to line things up, but I would put them at moments throughout the recording. Reason is, you can suffer from what I believe is called "drift" where the audio cycle/speed is slightly off from the video speed and near the end (especially if long) can become slightly un-synced. If you have your clap/slate/crunch chords throughout the piece, you can then easily check and even chop the audio and move it at those points when you see drift!

So you’re saying I’ll look like the old Godzilla TV show?



And yes, I’ve heard of that. Another thing about recording video and audio with two different devices, that makes things WAY more complicated than they should be with this level of technology.

 

[Moondog Wily]

So you’re saying I’ll look like the old Godzilla TV show?



And yes, I’ve heard of that. Another thing about recording video and audio with two different devices, that makes things WAY more complicated than they should be with this level of technology.

Yes, I am afraid the Godzilla era effect could creep into your productions without such PPPPPPP! I know it should be easier, but many companies (and Apple took the lead on this as far as I can tell) are trying to be the copyright police, which is not their duty nor within their rights IMO, which is what prevents some features from being available in software!

Look on the bright side, Godzilla was HUGE! In many ways!! So it may be a blessing!!!

 

[aamefford]

Cool thread. @DreamTheaterRules , I’ve enjoyed reading of your efforts. My daughter has a video production class in high school. We have shot videos on her phone, and used a web based site/program/whatever called WeVideo to do the editing during the COVID-19 shutdown/learn via zoom 2020-2021 school year. I used an external field recorder to get audio. We sync’d via loud claps. We had Godzilla like production quality. We now use Adobe Premier ‘cause that’s what they use now that they are back in school. WeVideo is pretty far from perfect, but might be worth a look.

Adding on, that I currently use the same field recorder (CEntrance Mixerface with the removable xlr condenser mics) as my interface, with the Mesa mkv25 cab clone thingy, into some monitors. Eventually I’ll record into garage band. I’m looking for another desktop format interface, so my field recorder can stay just that. I’m interested in the ik multimedia stuff, just for the Amplitube software. Any recommendations for simple, 2 in, 2-5 out ballpark interfaces is most welcome.

 

[Deleted member 5962]

I mean, I can just video things with my phone or course, but was hoping to get good audio quality at the same time. I have the gear to do that with. It shouldn't be difficult to get both into one format, and sync'd, given the technology available. It shouldn't require lots of other gear and software.

 

[markd21]

When I want to sync external audio right to the video with no post work, I use my Zoom H6 into the mic input on my camera.

 

[PRSWILL]

Live with the band- Guitar > volume pedal >Katana Clean Boost pedal > Line 6 G90 Wireless system > Hughes and Kettner Grandmeister 36 head > 2, 1x12 closed back cabs. Direct box from the head or mic'd cab to PA.

Studio : Guitar > various preamp (acoustic) or Eleven rack or H&K Direct box > Protools.

 

[László]

I mean, I can just video things with my phone or course, but was hoping to get good audio quality at the same time. I have the gear to do that with. It shouldn't be difficult to get both into one format, and sync'd, given the technology available. It shouldn't require lots of other gear and software.

Multiple apps aren't necessary. It doesn't require lots of other gear and software at all. It does require a DAW that works with picture, and plenty of them do.

It is simple, if you use Logic (and other DAWs will do this, too, but I'm most familiar with Logic, though my partner uses Cubase and Nuendo to do the same things); ProTools will also do this, as will DP.

As you know, scoring to picture is what I do, and I work to picture. I also send my work to clients with picture - that's what I have to do for approvals on tracks or audio post mixes. Clients send me picture and revisions from video post facilities every single day, sometimes multiple times a day. I don't have time to screw around with two apps.

So:

Let's assume for the moment you know how to email or using bluetooth or your wifi send a video file from your phone (or export it from your phone into a file sharing platform). Import it into your computer. Should take a few seconds at most.

If you're working in Logic, there's a menu item to open a movie. You can also click the dialog box to import any audio already recorded onto the video in one single step. Logic will automatically create a new track with the movie audio, that you can use, or not, depending on your needs. The movie opens in a window in your DAW.

You can set the tempo, record new audio, move the audio, do whatever you want easily, without messing up the sync with picture. No slates needed.

When you've got the audio to your liking in Logic, simply choose "Export Audio To Movie."

Boom. Done. You now have your movie striped with whatever you've done in your DAW. If your DAW doesn't have the ability to work with video, there are many others that do. Get one of them.

If your phone's mic sucks, Shure and others make inexpensive mics for them that clip right to the phone. I had my daughter get one to record my granddaughter's audition videos for pro theater stuff. There are also audio interfaces that work with phones if you want even better sound, but I'm pretty impressed by the little Shure mic.

Point is, it is ridiculously simple to do what you want to do.