594 Single Cut Questions...

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  1. Tag

    Tag New Member

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    Damn. I have 1/16th on the bass side, and 1/32 on the treble side. Is that abnormal?? My action is medium height. Very little room to go down, and neck is totally straight, no relief
     
  2. billyjk

    billyjk New Member

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    Thanks for the info guys!

    When playing the DC594 yesterday, the action was very high initially - which I thought was weird. I took it upon myself to make the guitar playable so that I could properly determine the feel/playability of the guitar. There was little space to adjust down on the treble side, so after a couple of adjustments, that went flat to the top of guitar. The bass side of the bridge was adjusted down less. The result was string height was was in no way "low", but just approaching average IMO. A person buying this PRS would be SOL if they wanted any adjustment leeway on the treble side of the bridge, for sure.

    I compared the DC594 I played with the other on the rack, it it was exactly the same. That one had the same high action on the treble side, with the bridge almost flush the the top.

    Again, this just could be two bad examples in a row. I am very familiar with checking next angle given the vintage guitars I own where they famously can have poor neck angles and therefore extreme bridge adjustments to compensate. I didn't expect to even check this on a PRS, so I was surprised.

    I may get to play other 594's today, schedule-willing. I'll report back if I do.
    -bk
     
  3. vchizzle

    vchizzle Birdman.

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    Why are your adjusting setups on guitars in stores though? You should have the owner of the store doing that. By lowering the action, the intonation is likely out. What's the relief on the neck like? You can't just do part of a setup.
     
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  4. dogrocketp

    dogrocketp I drank the PRS kool aid, and it was tasty!

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    One of my sons manages a GC. They don't touch the guitars once they come in. It doesn't matter if they're new or used. If the guitar was shipped through strong climate change, it's very likely it needed a simple tweaking of the neck. That doesn't mean it was a bad guitar, just not set up properly. If you can, go to a better retailer. I think you'll be pleased by the instrument, and the better service. There's s reason GC is in financial trouble. And the prices may even be better.
     
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  5. billyjk

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    I guess it's the product of having worked in a guitar repair shop for years. I checked the neck and there was the expected slight relief, so I wasn't concerned about that. I just lowered the action, which could be reversed in just a few seconds - although I don't expect anyone would want to as the guitar was far more playable after my visit. Intonation was just fine.

    Now that I think about it, maybe I should return just to be paid for my service. :)
     
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  6. billyjk

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    I agree. I plan to go to a better shop in the next week or so. I expect that what I saw at GC is not typical of 594s.
     
  7. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    I just looked at both of mine. The treble side I've got a little more than 1/16 on both. Action is set about as low as it can go. I've got room to go lower, but it would sound like crap.
     
  8. billyjk

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    Well, that's more like it.

    Today I had the good fortune to visit an independently-owned boutique shop and tried a SC594. Not only was it set up perfectly, it had ample travel on the bridge height adjustment, as it should. The SC594 felt perfect to me. As a long time Les Paul player (50+ years) the SC594 just felt right. The neck carve was a lot like a LP, but with that extra cut away on the underside that feels great. I played through a Vox combo and the pickups were certainly vintage-y, but clearer - especially the neck pickup - I really liked that. The coil taps were a nice touch for flexibility, but I didn't get a real traditional single coil vibe from them during this demo. The guitar sustained every bit as good as any vintage LP I've played. The overall feel and balance was wonderful. The build quality was other-worldly - much better than what I am seeing from Gibson and Fender these days.

    But again, you guys already know this stuff - I am singing to the freakin' choir here. If the SC594 I played today was the color I like best, I would have been tempted to thrown-down for it.
     
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  9. flux

    flux Centered and One

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    Welcome to Pattern Vintage. It's so addictive, it should come with a warning label. ;)
     
  10. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    Glad to hear you got your hands on a better set up example! Looking forward to you making the splurge!
     
  11. billyjk

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    That may happen at the Experience this year.
     
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    Makes me feel better! I can go low enough on the bass side so the strings hit the frets, not as much on the treble side, but low enough where its not playable. After all the PRSs I have owned, some all the way back to the artist 2s, i have never seen a prs neck move. Im sure it happens, but must be extremely rare. VERY good!!
     

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