S2 Standard 24 vs. CE24, with conditions

What would you do if you were me?

  • S2 Standard 24 with bird inlays

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • CE24 with black satin neck

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • Hold out/save up for a good deal on a core Custom 24-08

    Votes: 14 60.9%

  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .

CivoLee

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After I had to sell my 1992 Standard, I vowed that I would save up for a core CU24-08, it would be the nicest, most expensive guitar I'll ever own and any other guitars I bought from that day forward would be cheaper, more workhorse types of instruments.

Well, it turns out, I don't have that kind of discipline and I'd prefer to get something sooner rather than later. Plus, I've been trying to save up for a new place for years and I'd be better off focusing on that.

I do not want an SE. I had one already; it was a very nice guitar for what it was but I feel like going back to an SE after owning the early 90s equivalent of a core would be like saying I'm unworthy of the "real thing".

I like the S2 Standard; the pickguard offsets what I feel is the visual awkwardness of the asymmetrical beveled top and it gives the guitar kind of a punkish Les Paul Junior/Special kind of vibe. However, as some of you might have noticed, I'm not a fan of dots on a PRS. They did offer bird inlays as an extra cost option in 2015 and 2016; however, I guess most players/dealers were okay with the dots and for 2017 the option was dropped. So now the S2 Standards with birds have become kind of rare. I have found a few, though.

Or maybe I could save a little more and get a closer vibe to a core with a CE24. I have played them before and have liked them. Sure, the bolt-on neck will give it a different sound and the "flat violin" carve isn't as interestingly three dimensional as the arched violin the cores have*., but it has the same pickups as a Custom 24-08 (until this year, anyway) and the switching system is easier to use live than the 5-way rotary my Standard had, which I originally thought was a cool idea until I had one. The thing is, I'd strongly prefer one with a satin black neck. I feel it'd pair better with the finishes I like and feel a little bit more like a set-neck model, if not quite sound like one.

While I can't afford either of the above at the moment, I could afford them much sooner than a core. I also don't like the idea of basically being done with buying nicer instruments yet.

So what would you guys do if you were in my position? Should I find an S2 Standard 24 that has bird inlays or a CE24 with a black satin neck...or the courage and maturity to save up for what I really want, no matter how long it takes? I have seen 24-08s for less than 4K, but not too many. Plus, there is the caveat that I did play an S2 Standard 24 Satin once and it was...OK. I didn't have a lot of time with it, though.

*I know some of you might suggest a CE from the original 1988-2008 run, but I don't want anything that old.
 
OP I have 5 S2s, 3 of them standard 22s....I like 22 frets...used they're a steal and the carve is very comfortable...if you don't love the pups throw a JB in the bridge and you're set to rock....the CE is killer too and I bought an SE SAS for that bolt on vibe but honestly my S2s fit me more...theyre wonderful guitars...if you like a satin neck feel get the satin I think they actually sound better....can you go play the 2 anywhere??
 
tell people and stores you're looking and wait.
I hear a compromise in your post. I'd you're younger than 75...you still have plenty more guitars to buy, if they fill a need. Want is a " need" too. ;-)
 
I'm the type that says if you are going to save up, just buy 2 cheaper models and modify/upgrade them with different parts but I have around 25 electrics currently. Majority of those being heavily modified.

Babicz Bridges, Vegatrems, Mastery, etc.

All that said, neither of the guitars in the options seem like they'd need any modifications which is something I like about PRS guitars. They're already heavily modded Strats, Les Paul's, etc. Super cool!

*I voted S2 standard because I love the bird inlays!*
 
Guys, I thank you for the encouraging words, but honestly it would be better for me to choose one of the first two options. I really to focus on saving money to move, because though it's embarrassing for me to admit, this will be the first time I've moved out on my own (but it's not for lack of trying).
 
The S2 24 is the same as the SE 24 imo...and doesn't have a maple neck. For those reasons I won't buy a S2 unless it's a giveaway price. I'd sell my bolt on CE if given one. To each his own on the fugly pickguard.
I can't see paying thousands more for a core unless your situations calls for those last percentages. Otherwise make payments or a loan, if the guitar will pay for itself...either monetary or happiness.
 
I own and love S2s, CE24, and a core. I honestly don't think you would be disappointed with any of those options. That said, if your heart really wants a core, it will still want one even with owning some of those other fine guitars.


Since you are feeling impatient, I would buy a used S2 Standard now, as those are probably some of the best values out there (I see them fairly regularly for 5-$700) although, a bird model might run you a bit more. And then save up for the core while enjoying the S2.

Best answer is all 3 :D
 
My free advice is buy the best used “Core” guitar you can find now, learn all about it, enjoy it and figure out what you love and what you’d slightly change about it, and continue to stash away some cash.

Then buy another used one, do the same routine, and then you have a solid base of two serious instruments you can use to combine and/or sell to fund whatever that PRS is that you now think would be the best one for you with all your new information and real experience.
 
I have similar questions. I already have an SE Standard 24-08, which I love. I like the tonal varieties it provides. I keep adding touches to try to make it look more like a core, but it will never be one. I keep hearing there's nothing like the sound and feel of a real US-made core model. I also like the look of the maple top/finish. By budget is ideally around $1500, but I will go up to around $2200 or $2300 for a brand new guitar. About my playing: I am a weekend worship warrior. I gravitate toward the more traditional LP sound, but I don't mind something a little louder that I can still roll back. I do like variety in tonal options. I like the idea of splitting the coil and trying to replicate a strat sound (or at least as close as you can come with a split humbucker). I like having the flexibility of a tremolo bar, but the reality is that most of the time it sits in the case. I have been doing a ton of research. I've come across a few different options and could really use some advice/feedback:

Option 1: 2006 CU22 stoptail with Seymour Duncan 59s (the original Dragon IIs also come with it), an adjustable TonePros stoptail bridge (the original non-adustable PRS stoptail also comes with it) and McCarty-syle wiring (push-pull coil split).

Option 2: Fully stock 2005 CE22 with Dragon II pick-ups and the original 5-way rotary switch. Near perfect condition.

Option 3: Brand new S2 Custom 24-08 (uses US-made pick-ups and electronics now).

In terms of price, options 1 and 2 are within $200 of each other with the CU22 having some blemishes. Option 3 is brand new and would cost me around $2300.

Thoughts?
 
I have similar questions. I already have an SE Standard 24-08, which I love. I like the tonal varieties it provides. I keep adding touches to try to make it look more like a core, but it will never be one. I keep hearing there's nothing like the sound and feel of a real US-made core model. I also like the look of the maple top/finish. By budget is ideally around $1500, but I will go up to around $2200 or $2300 for a brand new guitar. About my playing: I am a weekend worship warrior. I gravitate toward the more traditional LP sound, but I don't mind something a little louder that I can still roll back. I do like variety in tonal options. I like the idea of splitting the coil and trying to replicate a strat sound (or at least as close as you can come with a split humbucker). I like having the flexibility of a tremolo bar, but the reality is that most of the time it sits in the case. I have been doing a ton of research. I've come across a few different options and could really use some advice/feedback:

Option 1: 2006 CU22 stoptail with Seymour Duncan 59s (the original Dragon IIs also come with it), an adjustable TonePros stoptail bridge (the original non-adustable PRS stoptail also comes with it) and McCarty-syle wiring (push-pull coil split).

Option 2: Fully stock 2005 CE22 with Dragon II pick-ups and the original 5-way rotary switch. Near perfect condition.

Option 3: Brand new S2 Custom 24-08 (uses US-made pick-ups and electronics now).

In terms of price, options 1 and 2 are within $200 of each other with the CU22 having some blemishes. Option 3 is brand new and would cost me around $2300.

Thoughts?
I have a Core standard 22 from the late 90s and 3 S2 standard 22s and the S2s play every bit as good as the Cores....I did swap the pups in 2 of em the third is stock....but as far as American feel and playability the S2s have it....SEs are awesome guitars but you'll feel the difference with the S2....
 
egolson:
Option 1 and 2 are going to feel different because of the neck carve and the 22 frets. The stoptail on the Custom 22 is also a different experience. Those factors would be more important to me than the pickups. I think I would enjoy playing the CE22 based on the neck and trem. You might not care or you might prefer one of the others. If you don’t like the CE or Custom 22, you will likely get most of your money out of them if you sell them. If they are priced fairly, there is very little risk.
 
I have similar questions. I already have an SE Standard 24-08, which I love. I like the tonal varieties it provides. I keep adding touches to try to make it look more like a core, but it will never be one. I keep hearing there's nothing like the sound and feel of a real US-made core model. I also like the look of the maple top/finish. By budget is ideally around $1500, but I will go up to around $2200 or $2300 for a brand new guitar. About my playing: I am a weekend worship warrior. I gravitate toward the more traditional LP sound, but I don't mind something a little louder that I can still roll back. I do like variety in tonal options. I like the idea of splitting the coil and trying to replicate a strat sound (or at least as close as you can come with a split humbucker). I like having the flexibility of a tremolo bar, but the reality is that most of the time it sits in the case. I have been doing a ton of research. I've come across a few different options and could really use some advice/feedback:

Option 1: 2006 CU22 stoptail with Seymour Duncan 59s (the original Dragon IIs also come with it), an adjustable TonePros stoptail bridge (the original non-adustable PRS stoptail also comes with it) and McCarty-syle wiring (push-pull coil split).

Option 2: Fully stock 2005 CE22 with Dragon II pick-ups and the original 5-way rotary switch. Near perfect condition.

Option 3: Brand new S2 Custom 24-08 (uses US-made pick-ups and electronics now).

In terms of price, options 1 and 2 are within $200 of each other with the CU22 having some blemishes. Option 3 is brand new and would cost me around $2300.
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Thoughts?
CE22 is always the right answer
 
egolson:
Option 1 and 2 are going to feel different because of the neck carve and the 22 frets. The stoptail on the Custom 22 is also a different experience. Those factors would be more important to me than the pickups. I think I would enjoy playing the CE22 based on the neck and trem. You might not care or you might prefer one of the others. If you don’t like the CE or Custom 22, you will likely get most of your money out of them if you sell them. If they are priced fairly, there is very little risk.
Thank you! I haven't purchased anything yet. Just looking for opinions. I am used to the wide-thin neck, but wouldn't mind the warmth and sustain the wide-fat neck s reported to provide. Stoptail doesn't bother me as much. I do have a stop tail Ibanez at the moment.
 
What drives that decision for you? The snappier response? Price point? Other?
It's the best value out there. Core level guitars at a helluva price point. I'm a trem guy and wide fat is one of my favorite carves. Admittedly the D2 aren't my favorite. I don't hate em, but wouldn't pick them as an everyday pickup. The neck is pretty awesome that PRS has made slight changes and called a differnet name for several pickups. The bridge can get pretty hairy but also cleans up decent with knobs. Split tones are good. I've been able to get some stratish tones out of em.

The Ce22 flat out rocks. One sweet guitar
 
I have a Core standard 22 from the late 90s and 3 S2 standard 22s and the S2s play every bit as good as the Cores....I did swap the pups in 2 of em the third is stock....but as far as American feel and playability the S2s have it....SEs are awesome guitars but you'll feel the difference with the S2....
What made you swap out the pickups? What came in them initially?
 
Is the CE22 priced too high or is the CU22 priced too low? They shouldn't been within $200 of each other, really.

If the CE is $1,500 or less, I'd do that. I dearly love my CE22. My Special 22, which is essentially a CU22 with a middle single coil, is a really nice guitar, too. The CE has more of an emotional connection for me and I know it better.

Either way, go with the CE or the CU. Either would be a better choice than the S2.
 
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