Save your ears ~ please !

Or maybe, it’s already too late for him.
It absolutely was. He also hit really hard. At the end of the night it wasn't uncommon for him to go through a few pairs of sticks and there were always "droppings" on the riser. He's also the only person I've ever seen break a kick pedal.

And for context, that was when I was in a country band.
 
It absolutely was. He also hit really hard. At the end of the night it wasn't uncommon for him to go through a few pairs of sticks and there were always "droppings" on the riser. He's also the only person I've ever seen break a kick pedal.

And for context, that was when I was in a country band.
Yup.
That’s a sign of immaturity. A more mature drummer can make the drums sound good at any volume level.
 
Yup.
That’s a sign of immaturity. A more mature drummer can make the drums sound good at any volume level.

The actual first sign was the constant name dropping on the way to the first gig. Then it was the playing.

We’ve gone to electric drums at rehearsal to control the overall volume. Helps.

That reminds me the guy we played for made him play electric drums because of the volume. I'm pretty sure he broke a Roland V-Drum snare head once too on a gig and it was a house kit.
 
I’ve seen this a few times and still don’t understand. If any other kind of musician abuses and damages equipment, it is simply unthinkable and unforgivable. But a drummer? People just seem to shake their heads, chuckle and say, “Oh well…”.
????
[edit- And the drummers, instead of being ashamed, either claim they didn’t do it, or take pride in it like it’s some kind of badge of honor]
 
We’ve gone to electric drums at rehearsal to control the overall volume. Helps.
My band used Roland v drums and IEMs with the guitar and bass and mikes through the mixing board.

The vocals were the loudest thing in the room and this allowed us to to have many years of rehearsals that n a quiet space.

Amps and Drums for real live on stage though...with a Bose Pro backline for the same sort of clarity without IEMs, and its not necessary to make the Bose real loud to sound good.
 
Got tinnitus at 25 years old here! It was my own stupid fault. 40W combo in my bedroom, also love recording & mixing so I spent a lot of time with headphones on.
Probably my biggest regret so far. First year of tinnitus was horrible, like a nightmare come true. But I think I'm doing better now.
It sucks that I can't use headphones anymore, but according to the doctor my hearing is 100% perfect. I know that's not fully true, I hear things different with one ear than the other. I think I just trained myself to hear things and pay attention to frequencies that others wouldn't pay attention to.
 
Not a rant , great advice
BUT its not just music
Airplanes ( inside while flying ) (Almost 90 DB) are really loud wear earplugs
Inside your motorcycle helmet there was a test over 100db at 60mph
My ears ring all the time , I am lucky it doesn't make me crazy but I do play really quite now and wear hearing protection a lot
 
I know I’ve told this story before. so why are you telling it again?
For 3 1/2 decades I faithfully used hearing protection (ear plugs) but apparently, I should have used something with better protection. If you could hear the ringing I hear, you’d run away covering your ears.
An addendum to my previous post.
A recent addition to the hearing situation has me concerned. I mostly play bass; live. Recently, when I play a low C, it sounds like I’m playing the wrong note or my bass is way out of tune. That causes me to quickly hunt at C# and B to find the right note, and steals my confidence for the next change. Never heard of that one before…
 
Don't shoot the messenger for this one. But...
When I got my pilots license, I had to do an audiology test. I was 42 at the time. The report showed a 25% loss in my right ear, and a lower (but seemingly significant) 15% loss in my left ear. I asked the audiologist if long term listening to loud rock music was the reason for my loss and she told me that most of the cases that she dealt with were not attributed to loud music at all. Then she asked me what I did for a living and I told her I was a meat cutter. Then she asked me about machinery that ran at high frequency noise. I told her about the band saw that ran at high speed. she looked at me and told me point blank that that was the reason right there. Saws are one of the worst culprits for ear and hearing damage. It isn't the noise level/dB at fault, but the frequency of the noise over extended periods of time.
I then told her about a certain concert I attended where myself and a friend were standing right beside the stage while Colin James was rocking out. We were right in front of the speaker stack and the sound was ridiculously loud. Of course we were rather "tuned up" at the time and we thought it was best to be as close as we could get (Colin's drummer was a friend of ours). She then told me that while it was possible to sustain some damage from that, it was more due to my repeated exposure to the noise of the saw for the previous 20 years.
But given repeated exposure to any loud noise, it will eventually reduce the human auditory abilities. And I am more careful in my practice room than I likely would be had I not had that test.
Not that I don't crank it and still rock out down there. It's R&R after all.
 
Don't shoot the messenger for this one. But...
When I got my pilots license, I had to do an audiology test. I was 42 at the time. The report showed a 25% loss in my right ear, and a lower (but seemingly significant) 15% loss in my left ear. I asked the audiologist if long term listening to loud rock music was the reason for my loss and she told me that most of the cases that she dealt with were not attributed to loud music at all. Then she asked me what I did for a living and I told her I was a meat cutter. Then she asked me about machinery that ran at high frequency noise. I told her about the band saw that ran at high speed. she looked at me and told me point blank that that was the reason right there. Saws are one of the worst culprits for ear and hearing damage. It isn't the noise level/dB at fault, but the frequency of the noise over extended periods of time.
I then told her about a certain concert I attended where myself and a friend were standing right beside the stage while Colin James was rocking out. We were right in front of the speaker stack and the sound was ridiculously loud. Of course we were rather "tuned up" at the time and we thought it was best to be as close as we could get (Colin's drummer was a friend of ours). She then told me that while it was possible to sustain some damage from that, it was more due to my repeated exposure to the noise of the saw for the previous 20 years.
But given repeated exposure to any loud noise, it will eventually reduce the human auditory abilities. And I am more careful in my practice room than I likely would be had I not had that test.
Not that I don't crank it and still rock out down there. It's R&R after all.
All very true.
Most of my issues are from sound levels at my job. Although I have played since the ‘70s, there weren’t that many times that the venue could get very loud. That is more my situation now. The stage isn’t terribly loud, but the hearing area vibrates. Anyway, even using protection, I’ve got terrible tinnitus. And I can’t blame my instruments.
 
I had a pair of Westones custom molded in the mid 90s, and took my son along so he could get a set, too.

We got the -15 dB inserts.

Mine still fit, work well and I use them when things get too loud for safety.

It’s not just a matter of volume; the amount of time spent with loud noise matters, too.

For those who like the car windows open at speed, wind noise can be a problem, especially on a longer drive.
 
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