Mike Duncan
DGT Player
The 11 to 50s I run would give it run for its money. I would love a neck that doesn't move!
I would love a neck that doesn't move!
Ok, Trust me, I am an "All In" PRS Guitars guy, but I gotta wonder, what if the owner goes from 10's to 11's or 12's in a couple years...I can't help but think the neck will move a little?? There is no adjustment to readjust the neck after a gauge change...Didn't Martin acoustics go from a steel "I" or "T" beam in the neck, and in the 70's ( I think??) go to a conventional truss rod...and Modulus basses went from no truss rod to conventional during their last years of existence?? Again, I'm a PRS FAN FOR LIFE, but let's just say the jury is out for a few years on this one. Btw...there's no one more than me that would love to see this idea work, just kinda theoretically throws up a red flag...
Apologies to Brian's a Guitars, if this entry should be elsewhere...??
Ok, Trust me, I am an "All In" PRS Guitars guy, but I gotta wonder, what if the owner goes from 10's to 11's or 12's in a couple years...I can't help but think the neck will move a little?? There is no adjustment to readjust the neck after a gauge change...Didn't Martin acoustics go from a steel "I" or "T" beam in the neck, and in the 70's ( I think??) go to a conventional truss rod...and Modulus basses went from no truss rod to conventional during their last years of existence?? Again, I'm a PRS FAN FOR LIFE, but let's just say the jury is out for a few years on this one. Btw...there's no one more than me that would love to see this idea work, just kinda theoretically throws up a red flag...
Apologies to Brian's a Guitars, if this entry should be elsewhere...??
I've had my graphite truss rod equipped acoustic for two years now., and had my first graphite rod acoustic for two years before that. Acoustic guitar strings are heavier than electric guitar strings. I've tried different strings and gauges. There is NO movement of the neck. 96 million modulus graphite is much, much stiffer and more robust in this way than a steel rod.
Martin acoustics went from no truss rod at all to an i-beam to a conventional rod because customers wanted to make adjustments, but I can attest to the fact that the Martin i-beam moved plenty and I had to send one back to Martin to be pressed out because it bent. In other words, the i-beam didn't really work out for Martin, so they went to a conventional rod. But Martin's line for a very long time was that a hunk of metal in the neck was bad for the tone of the guitars, and of course, today vintage Martins with no truss rods are still the gold standard for steel string acoustic guitars.
The only reason to make a carbon fiber neck adjustable is to accommodate player's preferences regarding neck relief. This is why Modulus went with one. Some want that, some don't. If you like adjusting your truss rod from time to time, it's great, and if you'd prefer not to ever have to adjust a truss rod, then a non-adjustable graphite neck is for you.
Hey, can I send in my Paul's to the PTC and exchange truss rods for one of the high modulus graphite ones? Huh??? Wishful thinkin'???
How much?
Hey, can I send in my Paul's to the PTC and exchange truss rods for one of the high modulus graphite ones? Huh??? Wishful thinkin'???
How much?
I already asked..... they can't do it. It's tooled different.
I've had my graphite truss rod equipped acoustic for two years now., and had my first graphite rod acoustic for two years before that. Acoustic guitar strings are heavier than electric guitar strings. I've tried different strings and gauges. There is NO movement of the neck. 96 million modulus graphite is much, much stiffer and more robust in this way than a steel rod.
Martin acoustics went from no truss rod at all to an i-beam to a conventional rod because customers wanted to make adjustments, but I can attest to the fact that the Martin i-beam moved plenty and I had to send one back to Martin to be pressed out because it bent. In other words, the i-beam didn't really work out for Martin, so they went to a conventional rod. But Martin's line for a very long time was that a hunk of metal in the neck was bad for the tone of the guitars, and of course, today vintage Martins with no truss rods are still the gold standard for steel string acoustic guitars.
The only reason to make a carbon fiber neck adjustable is to accommodate player's preferences regarding neck relief. This is why Modulus went with one. Some want that, some don't. If you like adjusting your truss rod from time to time, it's great, and if you'd prefer not to ever have to adjust a truss rod, then a non-adjustable graphite neck is for you.
Yeah, but I bet with a big enough hammer...
Well, that's what I was told in the Navy, "Boy, get a bigger hammer."
I have two nearly identical PRS Angelus Acoustics...one with a reinforcing rod (carbon fiber in these I believe), the other with standard adjustable truss rod.
http://prsguitars.com/forum/showthread.php?10559-NAGD-the-quot-Angelus-Sisters-quot
My totally subjective observation is that the coco B/S one (with the reinforcement rod) sustains longer and is much louder acoustically than the BRW B/S one (with standard truss rod). I have to wonder if that added "oomph" is a result of the neck construction. There has to be some compression of the wood in the neck with a truss Rod system (unless it's totally loosened)...could the absence of that compression allow the neck to transmit vibrations more freely? How would that effect the sustain/tone of an electric? I am intrigued by the possibilities.
Anyone here get to try one of these yet?