LOL, see - that's what I mean!!! I get the same reactions "in the wild". No worries. There was plenty of GREAT metal coming out of that time period - Gamma Ray, Emperor, Iced Earth, Blind Guardian - among MANY other bands out of Europe. Me, personally, I was partial to what was going on In Germany at that time. The birth of Norwegian Black Metal was interesting (though now it's kind of a joke, but back when it was happening that was some KILLER stuff).
Savatage were fairly local. I had just started taking lessons from Criss then he had the accident. Chris Caffery currently lives two blocks from where I live now. Dr. Killdrums helped me with setting up electronics on my drum kit - balancing my trigger levels vs. the tuning of my drum heads, etc. The Savatage guys are seen all over the place around here.
Shoot, my drummer and I are a part of the Crimson Glory circle. When ever Queensryche comes to town it's like a huge party because Todd gets everyone together. The only dude in that part of the scene with sour grapes is Wade Black - though he's still off doing Wacken and other MASSIVE festivals with his band. It's a cool scene over here. Yeah, lots of (generic) cookie monster stuff, but everyone is cool.
But, at the OP, I'd say I am too entrenched in metal on a weekly basis to hate it. I just think that after being surrounded by a ton of innovative, killer bands over the years Pantera didn't do much for me. I prefer my hardcore in the form of DRI or the Cro-Mags. My thrash in the style of NY bands, with a little 'Frisco mixed in. My "extreme" metal either home grown, or from the frozen lands of the North....and my speed from Germany.
All those bands are fine, but not the same style metal as Pantera. At a time when the whole popular music scene focused on grunge, Pantera was still able to be commercially successful. They were doing something that none of the other bands out there were doing. I think Vinnie bought a lot of that to the band. They had groove, were in your face and still had some technical proficiency. They moved and connected with huge amounts people, that's no small task. All the bands you mention are great bands, but not a single one of them "moves" me. Not gonna try to convince you to like them, but you can't discount their impact on the genre.LOL, see - that's what I mean!!! I get the same reactions "in the wild". No worries. There was plenty of GREAT metal coming out of that time period - Gamma Ray, Emperor, Iced Earth, Blind Guardian - among MANY other bands out of Europe. Me, personally, I was partial to what was going on In Germany at that time. The birth of Norwegian Black Metal was interesting (though now it's kind of a joke, but back when it was happening that was some KILLER stuff).
Savatage were fairly local. I had just started taking lessons from Criss then he had the accident. Chris Caffery currently lives two blocks from where I live now. Dr. Killdrums helped me with setting up electronics on my drum kit - balancing my trigger levels vs. the tuning of my drum heads, etc. The Savatage guys are seen all over the place around here.
Shoot, my drummer and I are a part of the Crimson Glory circle. When ever Queensryche comes to town it's like a huge party because Todd gets everyone together. The only dude in that part of the scene with sour grapes is Wade Black - though he's still off doing Wacken and other MASSIVE festivals with his band. It's a cool scene over here. Yeah, lots of (generic) cookie monster stuff, but everyone is cool.
But, at the OP, I'd say I am too entrenched in metal on a weekly basis to hate it. I just think that after being surrounded by a ton of innovative, killer bands over the years Pantera didn't do much for me. I prefer my hardcore in the form of DRI or the Cro-Mags. My thrash in the style of NY bands, with a little 'Frisco mixed in. My "extreme" metal either home grown, or from the frozen lands of the North....and my speed from Germany.
