I stupidly gave it away in the early 90's because after all, it was a pedal and everybody knew then that rack gear was... y'know, better!
The higher end rack gear was better! But sometimes better isn't really as good.
I stupidly gave it away in the early 90's because after all, it was a pedal and everybody knew then that rack gear was... y'know, better!
I use modulation effects - often chorus - on just about everything I record,/QUOTE]
Really? I'll have to take a closer listen to some of your stuff. I remember a bunch of mixers used to use the old "symphonic" effect from the Yamaha SPX series for the same thing, but I have never thought of trying that with regular old chorus effects... I may have to give it a try.
I use modulation effects - often chorus - on just about everything I record,/QUOTE]
Really? I'll have to take a closer listen to some of your stuff. I remember a bunch of mixers used to use the old "symphonic" effect from the Yamaha SPX series for the same thing, but I have never thought of trying that with regular old chorus effects... I may have to give it a try.
I used to run a pair of SPX 90s, an Eventide H3000, and a TC M5000 as my primary effects back in the day. I had some Lexicon boxes, too, but I mainly used those on drums to create a little space. On vocals I loved the H3000 reverbs.
Mostly I run modulation on guitars, a little on bass sometimes with parallel processing, and I use modulation on keys, but everyone else does that stuff, too.
I sometimes use filters with LFO modulation on drums, again, processed parallel, but it depends on the track. If you listen to the track I posted that I did for Cadillac on your studio monitors you'll hear the modulation on the three guitar tracks. I didn't modulate the strings or piano, but there is filtering on the drum track. I don't remember what else is in there.
The Mod Factor sounds a little less "digital" to my ear, and that has always been the case with Eventide algorithms.
I have heard the Strymon and it's very nice, too, though it's a little less organic to my ear than the Eventide.
The higher end rack gear was better! But sometimes better isn't really as good.
Interesting. I feel the opposite way. I bought a ModFactor and I thought it was just o.k. I agreed with the Strymon stuff more. I've owned an Ola, a Flint and I wan to get a Mobius. The "Undulator" on the ModFactor was a great effect, though...
Phillybri, which MXR, looks like they have 3 different ones.
I use mine for random parts in songs, solos, stuff like that, just to change up the tone for part of the song so things don't get too monotonous. The problem that I have with a lot of pedals is I tend to go for extremes, which means if I use the same sound/pedal over and over it can start to wear on the audience. So, then as I write songs, I start carrying around yet another pedal on the pedalboard for one or maybe two songs I may or may not play that night.Besides country dudes, who really uses a chorus pedal? And what kind of stuff do you use it for?
Yeah, this stuff is very, very subjective, no doubt about it. And I can't argue with you, at that level of quality, it's really just a matter of "pick one, they're both very nice pedals."
I do like the Strymon stuff, don't get me wrong! It's up there with the Eventide, so I think it's a matter of how they're flavored. For example, I like rotary effects quite a lot due to my work playing organ for many years. The Strymon has a beautiful rotary effect, for example, but it doesn't really sound like a Leslie Speaker, while the Eventide is much closer - it sounds closer to a Leslie minus the mechanical noise. The filter emphasis is different, there's less high end openness like you find on a real Leslie, the doppler effect is more pronounced. I've recorded a lot of Leslie speakers, so there's stuff I listen for.
I find that (as with analog gear) digital gear from every manufacturer has a "sound."
Strymon gear has a very neutral frequency response. It's almost like "your guitar magnified cleanly plus this effect." I'd call it very hi-fi. Hey, that's a great thing in the right hands!
Eventide effects have a lot going on in their algorithms. Your guitar sounds perhaps less hi-fi than it does with the Strymon stuff, and the effects more or less take over. But it's a matter of design preference, not skills of the algorithm makers - it's more like close-miking vs. room miking.
Room miking is going to give you a little less hi fi sound, on the other hand it's natural sounding. Eventide tends to use a lot of filtering and frequency emphasis to have the effect change the sound of the guitar.
Either approach is great. It's a matter of how you like your sound carved. If it's "I want my guitar to sound like my guitar only with an effect," I say the Strymon stuff is the way to go.
If it's "I want the effect to create something different than my guitar sounds," it's hard to beat the Eventide gear.
Which is better? Well, there isn't better (though there's what works better for your musical vision as opposed to mine).
There's just different.