GuitarJammin
Guitar Player
I'd probably go for core BUT if a guitar sounds and plays well it's a contender.
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I'd probably go for core BUT if a guitar sounds and plays well it's a contender.
Hell I don't remember you brought it the first time you came over , The one with the "S" if i remember, They haven't been out to play in along time.Oh yeah? Which one?
Hell I don't remember you brought it the first time you came over , The one with the "S" if i remember, They haven't been out to play in along time.
I gave my work background because it's relevant. We're talking about what we HEAR. It's usually considered good to share information like that.
As to the rest, I don't care. Have fun!
Totally this. Having owned SE, Core, WL and PS, there is ABSOLUTELY a difference, as there should be.
We’re NOT just talking about what we hear, well I’m not anyway! Can you hear the difference between an American made tuning key and an imported tuning key?
If the tuners hold their tune better, obviously, you can hear the difference. This is why so many SE players retrofit other tuning machines.
It’s an interesting question. I guess, if I sold my two SE CU24s and my S2 Standard 24, I could come close to the price of a Core CU24 (and I still have my stimulus money!)
But I’m a value person by nature. I don’t think SEs can be beat when it comes to value, and when they get nicked or scratched, it’s not a huge deal. I have a little OCD, and I can’t imagine how obsessive I’d get over a $2500 guitar. I bought a new car a couple of years ago, and I went with a Honda Fit, because it’s reliable and a tremendous value. Just like my SEs.
Am I justifying NOT buying a Core? Probably. But my SEs come from Surabaya, Indonesia, and so does my beautiful wife. So I’m pretty happy with what that city can produce.
There's nothing wrong with value. You have to do what works for you.
I've always said that buying an instrument is an emotional decision, as well as a rational one. We buy what inspires us in whatever way we want to be inspired. For me, that inspiration comes from the nth degree of tone, and due to the nature of my work, I can justify the investment in Core or up rationally as well.
On the flip side, I've made plenty of mistakes selling instruments that I regretted selling later. That was often about lust for something new, which was probably more irrational than rational.
VBut the hunt, I’m sure you’ll agree, is a lot of fun.
Those "little 5 watt amps" ... Can get plenty loud ! Especially for us bedroom/hobbyist player guys !
My current 5 Watt Fav ... a Victoria 5112 . Essentially a hand wired Fender Champ with the appropriate 12" driver ..
Of course there are differences, but I’m talking about tangible ones vs intangible ones.
I guess I haven’t managed to explain myself very well since lots of people seem to be misunderstanding what I’m saying and getting all defensive (which I kinda expected to be fair).
This is not a question of whose opinion is right. This is about having a preference for something when there’s no tangible reason for it.
For instance, somebody mentioned tuning pegs, which is a great example. The trem is another. I suggest that most people wouldn’t be able to tell a US spec trem from a molded import trem in a blind test, however some people will insist on having a US version because the perception is that it’s ‘better’. That, is simply the power of suggestion. Also, a tuner pretty much works or it doesn’t, so what makes one ‘better’ or worth more money? Subjectively, looks, as the Korean ones look crap and the core ones look great, but functionally? There’s not a lot in it, if anything.
There are definite and obvious differences between US and core, but as for what’s better in real terms isn’t quite as definite.
There is a functional difference in trems between the ones that come on SE’s/S2’s/new CE’s. While I agree I would probably (totally) fail a blind listening test, I would 100% pass a playing and string changing test, which ya know... are things guitar players do, and is part of the guitar playing experience.
Sorry, but I have a veritable pile of SE and Core guitars, and have slowly replaced the trems on all of the SE’s. It’s not subjective, the “Core” versions (and there have been many different manufacturers over the years) are better. The main culprits are the block and the knife-edges on the mounting screws, the string holes aren’t as big or as deep on the SE/S2 block, and the screws aren’t as precise.
just get your tech to do string changes.
He’s four, and only allowed to play bagpipes.
Just have him do those big loops like they did back in the 80s!He’s four, and not allowed to use string cutters.