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Korina Jack

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Why does the S2 line and the return of the long awaited CE24 have raised spring guards and electronics guards? With CNC technology at its peak, you'd think PRS would have made the necessary cuts to make the guards on the back remain flush just like the all the core models and even the SE models right? What's up with that? It's a deal breaker for me and in my opinion it only cheapens the guitars. Poor decision with the esthetics especially when a CNC machine could easily make those cuts in seconds. Lame!!! Hardly a cost saving excuse. Thoughts???
 
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Oh, boo hoo. So does my Brent Mason Signature, which was also a "core" model when I bought it (now it's categorised as a "bolt on"). I've never cared one whit bout that. Nobody ever looks at the back, really.
 
Yes the CNC can route it, but does it have to change blades? Is it the only or the last cut with that blade? In other words, it may not be only pennies. And as for deal breakers or not, the noble Fender Strat has a plastic plate slapped against the backside trem cavity and has been that way forever. Nobody complains.
 
justmund said:
Wait a minute, you say it cheapens the guitar but it's hardly a cost saving excuse?

It's more router time, it's more hand sanding time, it's more painting/finishing time. It adds up.

I think my (core) DC3 has a proud cover but I can't tell when I'm rocking it at a gig.
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"proud cover" - I like that! :-)
 
A routed cover definitely adds to the hand sanding and finishing time.

Too freakin' bad it's a deal breaker - your loss, not PRS'.

Buy a core and quitcher bitchin'.
 
sergiodeblanc said:
Looking forward to your next well-informed thread about how Dragons might as well be free.
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Ok, are we talking about Dragon guitars, or real Dragons? Cuz, ima all about them dragons. I'd line up for that fire breathin' sh!t!

As for the OP, I don't have anything nice to say, so I'll keep my thoughts to my self.
 
sergiodeblanc said:
I'm guessing it's a spellcheck thing. Ruger was building a Private Stock outta monogamy for a few days. o_O
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Well, a shortage of monogamy can cost you enough that you can't afford a PS...

As far as the raised cover on the back - my Petrucci has a raised cover, and it cost more than an S2. It was never a factor. I've had it for over four years - I didn't even know it was raised until December.
 
Raised covers and pick guards allow for faster assembly too.

When looking at things like this, you have to understand the critical balance companies go into when dealing with time and materials (production costs) vs price point. The S2 line was designed from its outset to meet a specific price point. Every spec of every S2 guitar was tweaked to be the best it could be and fit that niche.

If recessed control cavity plates are your deal breaker, PRS has a solution. Buy a core model.

Jmartin said:
I don't understand all hating on the op. What's up with that?
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It isn't hate, it's exasperation with yet another thread with someone wanting more than economics and good business practice dictate.

You don't get Moët And Chandon at Korbel prices. It just doesn't work that way.
 
Jmartin said:
I don't understand all hating on the op. What's up with that?
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It's partly the attitude of the original post.

Korina Jack said:
Why does the S2 line and the return of the long awaited CE24 have raised spring guards and electronics guards? With CNC technology at its peak, you'd think PRS would have made the necessary cuts to make the guards on the back remain flush just like the all the core models and even the SE models right? What's up with that? It's a deal breaker for me and in my opinion it only cheapens the guitars. Poor decision with the esthetics especially when a CNC machine could easily make those cuts in seconds. Lame!!! Hardly a cost saving excuse. Thoughts???
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Up until the bold part, it's innocuous IMO - Jack is asking why and stating that he doesn't like it. People may disagree with it, but that's personal preference. But when he goes to "Lame!!!!" and says it's not a cost saving, then it comes across as "I've formed my opinion already and don't want to hear any reasons that don't support my position." I'm not saying that's his stance, but that's how it reads to me. The fact that some people responded a little more harshly than others (although hardly approaching "hate") should not be a surprise.
 
Jmartin said:
I don't understand all hating on the op. What's up with that?
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It's not hate. It's disdain.

PRS "lame?" "Lazy?" For doing what Fender, Suhr, Tom Anderson, and most everyone else puts on significantly more expensive guitars in their lines?

Give us a freaking break.

The OP showed his thoughtlessness, ignorance, and disrespect. He deserved to be responded to in exactly the way he was responded to.
 
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LSchefman said:
It's not hate. It's disdain.

PRS "lame?" "Lazy?"
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It was the "lazy" part that kinda irked me. Having some experience re-finishing guitars has taught me how skilled a person has to be to avoid ruining a guitar with sanding. It's so easy to ruin a guitar if you're not careful, and if you've ever looked at the starting hourly salary for a sander at PRS (it's occasionally up on their website) and are aware of what they do to guitars that don't pass QC... I don't think there's a lazy person in that whole factory.

justmund said:
"Proud" is actually the word for something that doesn't sit flush, i.e. "the covers on that guitar sit proud of the body".

Commonly used in woodworking, building, fitting etc

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Really? You just taught me something new today. Thanks, Jutsmund.
 
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