Which PRS SE model has the best "Jazz" sound

Discussion in 'Electric Instruments' started by Calvin Wright, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. Calvin Wright

    Calvin Wright New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2017
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dear PRS users,
    I started guitar a year ago and am looking to buy a new PRS guitar. I was wondering which SE model you would you recommend to get that smooth "Jazz" sound? I am a new poster here so I can't link a sound example, but Autumn Leaves by Achim Kohl is the sound I am looking for.

    Thanks for any input,
    Calvin Wright
     
  2. shinksma

    shinksma What? I get a title?

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2014
    Messages:
    2,640
    Likes Received:
    1,157
    Oblig:

    Tone is in the fingers.

    Anyway...none of the SEs are targeted to a jazz sound. That being said, any of the semi-hollows will get you there more easily than a solid body, IMHO. Roll off the treble, lower the pups, use the neck pup, and, well, finger technique, will get something that could be used for jazz. There are no full hollowbody archtop PRS SE guitars. (Yet - hint hint, PRS Marketing... ;) )

    Looking at the YouTube video of the song/artist, he is using a Gibson ES 137 - the closest PRS would probably be a core model like the JA-15, well above the price range of an SE, of course.
     
  3. JSanta585

    JSanta585 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2017
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    82
    I was primarily a jazz guitarist for a number of years. If you're thinking Achim Kohl, you're going to need a fully hollow carved guitar. That goes for most traditional jazz tones. That being said, a good amp with a lot of clean headroom is a must, and just roll the tone/volume down on a neck humbucker. Jazz is more about how a song is approached versus the equipment. I had a Benedetto for years that I sold because I got a better tone with my Parker Fly, at least I feel like I do.

    I'll be honest, if you want a guitar to just do the jazz stuff, buy an Ibanez Artcore. If you're looking for something a little more flexible, I'd get this one: http://www.prsguitars.com/index.php/electrics/se/se_zach_myers_2017
     
  4. Calvin Wright

    Calvin Wright New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2017
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    What's a good amp you recommend? (Under 200?)
     
  5. Dusty Chalk

    Dusty Chalk alberngruppenführer

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,895
    Likes Received:
    1,393
    I would recommend any of the semi-hollow guitars in PRS' SE lineup. In addition to the excellent Blach...er...Zach Myers recommendation (which I've been playing exclusively for the last week), I believe they also have the semi-hollow Custom 22, with which I'm not familiar. I'm not sure anyone here has both, but I believe most jazz guitars would probably lean towards 22 frets. You should be able to find one or the other in your vicinity. Give them a try.
     
    Calvin Wright likes this.
  6. JSanta585

    JSanta585 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2017
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    82
    Something like a Fender Champion 40 could be good.
     
    Calvin Wright likes this.
  7. Audie

    Audie New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2013
    Messages:
    810
    Likes Received:
    146
    PRS SE Zach Myer. I got some great jazz tones out of the neck pickup. That is pretty much what I used it for. Santana's Europa has some sound familiarity with Autumn Leaves. I was pleased with how Europa sounded on my Zach. I have to admit though it was even better on my HBII.
     
  8. dogrocketp

    dogrocketp I drank the PRS kool aid, and it was tasty!

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2013
    Messages:
    1,344
    Likes Received:
    463
    Find a used Tech21 Trademark 60 ( you MUST connect the foot pedal for good cleans). Been my go to jazz amp for 15 years. And make sure you spend the time to learn the controls. It`ll do anything. The very first review I read was in a guitar mag. The reviewer stated that he bought the amp.
     
    Badspike likes this.
  9. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2012
    Messages:
    17,598
    Likes Received:
    4,408
    To those who say jazz requires a hollowbody guitar, Al Dimeola, jazz great, uses a Signature solid body PRS model, and John McLaughlin, jazz great, recorded his last album with a solid body Private Stock model that looks like it’s based on the DGT.

    So, yeah. You can play jazz on a solid body SE.
     
    Mr_You and Dusty Chalk like this.
  10. Audie

    Audie New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2013
    Messages:
    810
    Likes Received:
    146
    I agree, but i think the tone pursued here by the O.P. may be found in a semi hollow. That said I recently acquired a 94 McCarty from a New Orleans/Baton Rouge Jazz man. Those old McCarty pups have mellowed with age and that guitar gives me some great Scofield and Benson Jazz tone. I love it for all tones actually. And it is relic'd the natural way from some hard living on Bourbon St. I think that it adds to the tone as well.;)
     
  11. JSanta585

    JSanta585 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2017
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    82
    Required is a strong word. The example from the OP was a more traditional hollowbody jazz tone. I would also add that I don't think of either of those guys as having traditional jazz tones. Fusion tones for sure, but they don't sound like Wes Montgomery or Jim Hall or Frank Vignola.
     
  12. Dusty Chalk

    Dusty Chalk alberngruppenführer

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,895
    Likes Received:
    1,393
    I started to state, but must've edited it out -- it's mostly psychological. I tend to "think" in that general direction when I'm playing an archtop, and I tend to think more "rock'n'roll" with a solidbody. But I agree with you -- it's more about arrangements and mindset. One can really accomplish anything tone-wise with anything guitar-wise.

    I would also recommend having it set up with as high an action as you can stand, and with as taught strings as you can stand. They sustain better that way.
     
    charliefrench likes this.
  13. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2012
    Messages:
    17,598
    Likes Received:
    4,408
    I saw Wes play live in a small club in Detroit called Baker’s Keyboard Lounge in the 60s; he was a unique-sounding player.

    No one sounds like him. The recordings only give you a taste of what he sounded like live.

    The others...great players, perhaps more traditional in terms of tone.
     
    JSanta585 and charliefrench like this.
  14. Mr_You

    Mr_You New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2012
    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    7
    Used PRS SE Zach Myers (with "vintage voiced" 24.5" scale) or other semi-hollow (with standard PRS 25" scale) with PRS 57/08, SD Seth Lover, or Gibson Classic 57/57 Plus pickups.

    If you want "the real deal" then consider saving up for a used HB I or II and upgrade the pickups.

    Boss Katana 50/100 is probably your best bang for buck low cost new amp.
     
    #14 Mr_You, Oct 20, 2017 at 5:55 AM
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2017 at 6:23 AM

Share This Page