Where to find accessories for mods? Why doesn't PRS sell them?

winemaker

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Hey guys,

I have an itch to change out the narrowfield pickup covers on my NF3 from black to white. But...it looks like this kind of thing is non-existent. And yeah, I know the NF3 is out of production so may not be a good example, but just in general it seems to be difficult to find pickups, and other parts for PRS.

Why?

Fender and every guitar parts maker in the world makes aftermarket parts for Fender guitars. Same for Gibson.

Why is it so hard to find aftermarket parts for PRS guitars? Is the market that small, or is this sort of thing discouraged by PRS?

Seems like a lucrative opportunity missed.

Ideas?
 
Relatively small market, PRS do a lot of proprietary stuff, like Narrowfields, squabbins, 408s etc, so releasing different coloured bobbins just isn't going to be worth it (can you even change out bobbins, or are they glued on?).

Also, maybe Paul just doesn't like white/creme pickups!
 
Personally, I modify every PRS I buy. What are you having trouble finding? I do tuners, nuts, USA pots & switches on the SE`s. My core only has wood pickup rings and shielding as mods. Keep in mind the core models are usually a cut abouve the competition (IMHO). You also lose resale value on the cores if you modify them. THat`s why I have too many SE`S. Anything can be found via the internet. Keep looking.
 
Fender and every guitar parts maker in the world makes aftermarket parts for Fender guitars. Same for Gibson.

Why is it so hard to find aftermarket parts for PRS guitars? Is the market that small, or is this sort of thing discouraged by PRS?

Seems like a lucrative opportunity missed.

Ideas?

PRS may be the third largest US guitar maker, but they are tiny compared to Fender and Gibson. Think about it...Fender has been making the same models for over 60 years. And every year their output dwarfs PRS. Gibson has models they've been making since the late 30s. The "installed base" of customers for Fender and Gibson is gigantic compared to PRS.

And the Gibson and Fender offshore stuff sells a TON, and is a cookie cutter copy of what they make in the US. So it's all swappable.

As a result, the aftermarket for these makers is huge. So people selling parts have a huge potential market, and Fender and Gibson have the resources to invest in tons of aftermarket parts.

PRS, on the other hand, doesn't use standard, off the shelf parts in the first place. And who'd want to replace the high quality tuning machines, for example, that come on a Core PRS with an aftermarket part (obviously tuner buttons are a different story, but PRS offers two choices of aftermarket tuner buttons, and companies like crazyparts.de offer buttons, switch tips, and pickup rings for them anyway). And PRS is constantly working to improve and change the instruments in small ways each year. Fender's no longer doing that, nor is Gibson. They're still living in the 1950s and 1960s with their product lines for the most part.

However, John Mann offers some wonderful alternative bridges that are very high quality, so there's another option to customize the guitar.

Most Core PRSes don't use pick guards, so there's not much to offer there. PRS offers pickup choices on their web store, but with the very unique pickups that they offer in some cases, it'd be expensive for them to stock alternative colors.

If you visit the PRS factory, you'll see that it's a relatively small family, compared to the industry giants. That's just a fact, and if there's opportunity there for aftermarket suppliers, it doesn't seem to be a big opportunity, so options are limited.

Moreover, Gibson is a conglomerate, they aren't just making guitars, in fact, guitars have become almost a side line for them. Gibson owns Onkyo, a formerly Japanese company who make hi fi systems, Cerwin Vega speakers, Stanton, who make turntables and cartridges among other DJ and hi fi equipment, KRK studio speakers, and Baldwin Pianos. They own Cakewalk software. They bought - and absolutely ruined - the wonderful Oberheim synthesizer company, and ran that into the ground. And Gibson has factories in Nashville, Memphis, and Montana. PRS has one relatively small factory, and subcontracts its foreign made instruments!

And all PRS make is guitars. Their own guitars. They don't buy companies like Fender bought Gretsch and several others. Maybe in the future they'll rest on their laurels and stop innovating, and just get into the cookie cutter stuff. But thank goodness, not now!

Gibson and Fender have zero interest in moving the art of lutherie forward, as far as I'm concerned. Contrast that with PRS. Paul is very interested - in fact obsessed - with moving the art forward.

So what's the priority here? Making a bunch of the same junk year after year to sell, or making the guitars better year after year?

My own feeling is that I'd rather have PRS concentrate on what they do best, namely, continue to upgrade and improve their guitars, instead of banging out the same stuff year after year, like Fender and Gibson do.

Those are my thoughts. I'm sure there are additional reasons I didn't think of.
 
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Agree with Les. PRS makes most things so good they don't NEED to be replaced.

With pickups like the NFs and the 408s etc. where Paul is playing with the spread between the coils and actually innovating and coming up with something new and wonderful. And there aren't enough of them for Duncan or DiMarzio or whomever to make NF or 408 sized replacements. Besides, who would want to replace those incredible pickups anyway?
 
Wow did Les sum it up perfectly! PRS should stick to their knitting, continually improve the products and ensure that products change as musical tastes change. And, growth through acquisition is probably not in the PRS DNA.

Look at Gibson. They bought Onkyo to get into the home theater / consumer electronics market. Not exactly a thought leader in the home theater marketplace. In fact, thought of a s a cheap me too brand for the most part. Their Integra products are decent. Cerwin Vega for speakers? Dead for home use and again somewhat of a me too brand in the sound reinforcement arena. Totally agree with the Oberhiem comment. I really think they are trying to complete with harmon international which owns about 60% of the electronics market and is a cutthroat competitor in the space who owns everything across the electronics segment. I don't get this one.

I get what Fender is doing. Build some core models, build some imports, buy up a few older brands for nostalgia sake (Gretsh, Charvel, Jackson) and keep pumping life into the same product line. Slow and steady growth. fender and PRS have something in common - both are great at working with overseas labor to build good products. The SE and MIM lines are both good quality instruments.
 
Wow, sure wish someone had responded with a direct answer. Would be nice to know if there is a "site" that offers covers and other parts that fit properly.

There may be some info HERE:creep:
 
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Wow, sure wish someone had responded with a direct answer. Would be nice to know if there is a "site" that offers covers and other parts that fit properly.

There may be some info HERE:creep:

As pointed out above, PRS guitars are a fraction of the market, perhaps small enough that it really isn't lucrative enough yet for a ready market of mod parts. Add to that the great off the shelf quality of PRS guitars and the number of people seeking extensive mods that would be PRS specific shrinks even further.

Business plans usually have a healthy profit and sustainability in mind for success. It would appear that a market just isn't there yet for PRS specific mods.

Given that reality, you could have just posted your suggestion to look at The Gear Page openly without the snarky comment. No one here is naive enough to not know there are other guitar forums.
 
Wow, sure wish someone had responded with a direct answer. Would be nice to know if there is a "site" that offers covers and other parts that fit properly.

There may be some info HERE:creep:

I did mate, see post #2. The OP was asking about changing the BOBBINS on his Narrowfield pickups from black to white (yes he calls them covers).

Narrowfields are their own special size, there's no other pickup the same out there. There's not that many of them compared to all the guitars in the world, so it's simply not worth it to PRS or anyone else to make a white version.
 
And, all the above being correct, what is the reason to want to buy hard to buy parts from PRS? Almost all hardware, with the exception of things made specifically for PRS, can be bought on the internet. Pots resistors, capacitors, switches etc. can be bought anywhere.
 
Wow, sure wish someone had responded with a direct answer. Would be nice to know if there is a "site" that offers covers and other parts that fit properly.

There may be some info HERE:creep:


Interesting response. It seems every reply here is some form of answer to your question. Unless that is, you wanted direct links to sites for PRS Store, or aftermarket pickups, tuners, bridges, etc.
Since I wasn't helpful enough in my last post. Here you go.

Start here - http://us.prsaccessories.com/

If you don't find what you need there, go to

http://www.seymourduncan.com/

http://www.dimarzio.com/

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/tuning-machine-heads-for-guitars/schaller-locking-tuning-machine-heads-3-per-side


http://www.musiciansfriend.com/search?sB=r&Ntt=pots


And LOTS more here... http://www.google.com






 
Interesting response. It seems every reply here is some form of answer to your question. Unless that is, you wanted direct links to sites for PRS Store, or aftermarket pickups, tuners, bridges, etc.
Since I wasn't helpful enough in my last post. Here you go.

Start here - http://us.prsaccessories.com/

If you don't find what you need there, go to

http://www.seymourduncan.com/

http://www.dimarzio.com/

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/tuning-machine-heads-for-guitars/schaller-locking-tuning-machine-heads-3-per-side


http://www.musiciansfriend.com/search?sB=r&Ntt=pots


And LOTS more here... http://www.google.com






I was very tempted to just post this...http://lmgtfy.com/?q=prs+accessories
 
I probably have just about any PRS part you might need available (or can get it)...

~ John

Hey guys,

I have an itch to change out the narrowfield pickup covers on my NF3 from black to white. But...it looks like this kind of thing is non-existent. And yeah, I know the NF3 is out of production so may not be a good example, but just in general it seems to be difficult to find pickups, and other parts for PRS.

Why?

Fender and every guitar parts maker in the world makes aftermarket parts for Fender guitars. Same for Gibson.

Why is it so hard to find aftermarket parts for PRS guitars? Is the market that small, or is this sort of thing discouraged by PRS?

Seems like a lucrative opportunity missed.

Ideas?
 
Some of you guys are responding to the wrong poster. Shoman is not the OP. I am.

This is my first post in the thread since I started it.

And yes, I know about the PRS accessories webpage, but they don't sell what I'm looking for.

Basically I am interested in NF3 pickguards, and 58/15 pickups. I would also like to make the NF3 pickups white but was thinking along the lines of Fender covers, not even considering that the PRS narrowfields are of a different construction. Maybe it's not possible to change color on them like you can on a strat style pickup.

Be careful who you reply to! I truly appreciate all the informative responses and will check all the links.
 
...58/15 pickups...
That one I can help you with -- you can only get them used, so eBay, Reverb, Craigslist.

(Side note to everyone else who is already familiar with the hunt for them -- my guitarist friend that I keep talking about was offered a pair, and he put them in a Singlecut and didn't like them, so declined the offer. I didn't hear this story until well after the fact. Argh!)
 
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