Victor Vector left due to the normie trolls

Well, this is certainly a shame! He was one of the very few members who was actually posting music (and well done videos) he created, which I value more than what anyone has to say about gear, guitars, other artists, moon landings, politics or religion ;~)) Even if I do not like the music a forumite has created, I would still rather see/hear that than opinions on products and people (though of course, some music could be about those very things).

As for the cliques, I will say that they do exist here and on the other 2 forums I am a part of (but I believe it is true of any group of almost any size). And that is fine, some people thrive on exclusion and aggrandizing their value by being a part of a smaller group. That is their problem, not mine, even if they do decide to be condescending or ignore my input! I state my opinion when I think it is relevant to the topic, help when I can and make jokes as often as possible. Beyond that, I scroll away from anything I don't like and it is over ;~))

Victor, if you read this, I hope you come back! Steve, thanks for starting this thread to bring attention to this matter! Others, looking forward to hearing music you have created and decide to share with us ;~))
Thanks for this but I think you have him confused with someone else, Vic never posted videos or music. He just loved to talk about music and really wanted to create topics to get to know everyone.

I am one who constantly posts videos from my YouTube but I haven't lately as I've been more present on another forum. However, I do not like discussing politics or religion either, usually it's brought into threads (and threads I create) by other members.

I'm confused at how many people are unaware about the cliques that we have here on the forum. I've been on this forum only for a couple months, it's had its ups and downs for me, it's not the best forum but it's not the worst. There are plenty of long time members that have made this forum seem like a joke and they're usuay backed by their forum friends. I am able to see this only being here a short time, Vic and others have also seen it.

Vic never said anything about anyone though, he just more-or-less said he wished everyone well and it just wasn't for him. He left gracefully and with a positive attitude. It's really something!
 
Thanks for this but I think you have him confused with someone else, Vic never posted videos or music. He just loved to talk about music and really wanted to create topics to get to know everyone.

I am one who constantly posts videos from my YouTube but I haven't lately as I've been more present on another forum. However, I do not like discussing politics or religion either, usually it's brought into threads (and threads I create) by other members.

I'm confused at how many people are unaware about the cliques that we have here on the forum. I've been on this forum only for a couple months, it's had its ups and downs for me, it's not the best forum but it's not the worst. There are plenty of long time members that have made this forum seem like a joke and they're usuay backed by their forum friends. I am able to see this only being here a short time, Vic and others have also seen it.

Vic never said anything about anyone though, he just more-or-less said he wished everyone well and it just wasn't for him. He left gracefully and with a positive attitude. It's really something!
Ok, I’m having a hard time understanding this whole thread. First, he made a few inappropriate comments in the Orianthi thread. This forum has always been “family friendly” and has had female participants for longer than I have been around. As much as I joke about Julie or Sofia or Marie, I really try not to ever say anything offensive.

He got some flack for comments he made in that thread and rather than retract or revise them, he doubled down. Most people didn’t see it because it got deleted. And I don’t read every post here by any stretch, but I didn’t see anyone trolling him in other threads because of that. In fact, saw people commenting on his music and videos he posted and all positive. So the whole tone of your email is very curious… including the ending. What the flyin crap does Lew have to do with it? Did I miss where you and he are here because Lew invited you, or something like that? If I did, please elaborate and maybe it will make more sense. But unless I did, my spidey senses were tingling reading the whole OP, but got to the end and they went nuts. What the heck?
 
Ok, I’m having a hard time understanding this whole thread. First, he made a few inappropriate comments in the Orianthi thread. This forum has always been “family friendly” and has had female participants for longer than I have been around. As much as I joke about Julie or Sofia or Marie, I really try not to ever say anything offensive.

He got some flack for comments he made in that thread and rather than retract or revise them, he doubled down. Most people didn’t see it because it got deleted. And I don’t read every post here by any stretch, but I didn’t see anyone trolling him in other threads because of that. In fact, saw people commenting on his music and videos he posted and all positive. So the whole tone of your email is very curious… including the ending. What the flyin crap does Lew have to do with it? Did I miss where you and he are here because Lew invited you, or something like that? If I did, please elaborate and maybe it will make more sense. But unless I did, my spidey senses were tingling reading the whole OP, but got to the end and they went nuts. What the heck?
By golly, I sure wish I had clicked through on the Orianthi thread while it was still around! Seems like I missed out on some good stuff (for this adult that is)!!
 
Wow, never seen those. You're right, I'm a liar. You got me ;) ;)
 
Ok, I’m having a hard time understanding this whole thread. First, he made a few inappropriate comments in the Orianthi thread. This forum has always been “family friendly” and has had female participants for longer than I have been around. As much as I joke about Julie or Sofia or Marie, I really try not to ever say anything offensive.

He got some flack for comments he made in that thread and rather than retract or revise them, he doubled down. Most people didn’t see it because it got deleted. And I don’t read every post here by any stretch, but I didn’t see anyone trolling him in other threads because of that. In fact, saw people commenting on his music and videos he posted and all positive. So the whole tone of your email is very curious… including the ending. What the flyin crap does Lew have to do with it? Did I miss where you and he are here because Lew invited you, or something like that? If I did, please elaborate and maybe it will make more sense. But unless I did, my spidey senses were tingling reading the whole OP, but got to the end and they went nuts. What the heck?
I joined originally because of Lew, not sure about Vic. Besides a few private messages and some posts, I don't "really" know Vic, both Vic and I conduct ourselves with integrity. I don't remember anything too bad on the Orianthi thread, just that Vic said she looked hot and someone said "she has no hips" , then it escalated to insults where other members got dragged in.

Maybe something happened after the last time I checked it out. I woke up and it was gone.
 
Wow, never seen those. You're right, I'm a liar. You got me ;) ;)
Well, I would not go so far as to call you a liar as that would indicate you said what you did knowing it to be false! I will say you were speaking as if you knew it all (about Victor and his 6 months here on the forum), when in fact you did not ;~)) All good in my hood, hope the same for you!!
 
Well, I would not go so far as to call you a liar as that would indicate you said what you did knowing it to be false! I will say you were speaking as if you knew it all (about Victor and his 6 months here on the forum), when in fact you did not ;~)) All good in my hood, hope the same for you!!
We're good. Never had an issue with you:)
 
"Normie trolls"?
Is that a quote from Victor or your own inflection?
Both.

Vic and I have had conversations, we both noticed that this forum can be a little off at times. We always wondered why the newer members get trolled hard. And it takes alot for me to call members a troll. Guessing the same for Vic. Still, it's true.
 
We're good. Never had an issue with you:)
Not yet anyway ;~)) Give me time, I am sure to piss you off eventually! I got in trouble in the first couple of months I was here (Joined in Feb '21) because I did not like an idea someone posted (old school member) and countered with my own idea (that thread also disappeared), but it has not stopped me from speaking my mind and I will not run away. I like PRS guitars and the company too much!! Plus there are some cool people here to chat with and learn from ;~))
 
Not yet anyway ;~)) Give me time, I am sure to piss you off eventually! I got in trouble in the first couple of months I was here (Joined in Feb '21) because I did not like an idea someone posted (old school member) and countered with my own idea (that thread also disappeared), but it has not stopped me from speaking my mind and I will not run away. I like PRS guitars and the company too much!! Plus there are some cool people here to chat with and learn from ;~))
Glad you're still here!
 
I'm surprised about all of this. The only time I've been trolled was back in January of 2020 when I posted information about what was happening in China with Covid 19, along with a recommendation by a physician about trying to avoid catching and spreading it. One member called it "fear porn" and I tried to engage him with facts and that we should be avoiding infecting one another and his answers were always short and curt. I ended up hitting the "ignore" button on his screen name but from what I gather he acted that way to everyone else who questioned him and he eventually left.

That said, I didn't read many of his posts because the ones I did didn't interest me.
 
Wow, never seen those. You're right, I'm a liar. You got me ;) ;)
no, but that’s what I didn’t get about your original post. He not only stayed around after that, but things seemed to completely go away when the O thread got deleted. He was posting music, people were positive about it, he was conversing with several people about his music posts and a few other places, and then suddenly he’s gone…. ??? Like I said, I could have missed where someone was giving him crap but other than calling him out to tone it down a little in that Orianthi thread, I sure didn’t see anyone busing on him. In fact, after that I thought he was cool and would be sticking around.

Sometimes you might get called out and with slight posting style modifications end up being a long time contributing member of a forum. After a very minor ruckus, he sure seemed OK about it to me.
 
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I'm surprised about all of this. The only time I've been trolled was back in January of 2020 when I posted information about what was happening in China with Covid 19, along with a recommendation by a physician about trying to avoid catching and spreading it. One member called it "fear porn" and I tried to engage him with facts and that we should be avoiding infecting one another and his answers were always short and curt. I ended up hitting the "ignore" button on his screen name but from what I gather he acted that way to everyone else who questioned him and he eventually left.

That said, I didn't read many of his posts because the ones I did didn't interest me.
Ahhh, I see.. I take things on forums (any forum, including this one) with very little grain of salt these days. While I'm here to only talk about gear and music, it's a no-brainer that other topics will come up and there's almost no way to avoid getting involved in sides.

I've been here for only a short time and there's been a few who have tried to get a reaction out of me but none have ever been successful, I can easily see through that type of stuff so I read it literally laugh out loud. It's sad of people here but also very real, so when a member tells me something like "There's no drama here..." , I would like to remind them that this is a forum, and it's the same as all forums. Cliques, trolls, flame traps, clickbait all exist here. But I can be active here despite not having to get involved with any of those things. Like you, I refuse to add any drama and fan any flames, in this case, I think this was important to make a thread about. If anything, everyone is made aware abd keep him in their prayers.
 
Both.

Vic and I have had conversations, we both noticed that this forum can be a little off at times. We always wondered why the newer members get trolled hard. And it takes alot for me to call members a troll. Guessing the same for Vic. Still, it's true.
I'm pretty new and that has not been my experience at all; far from it, in fact. Oh well...
Glad you're made of sterner stuff than Vic.
 
I'm confused at how many people are unaware about the cliques that we have here on the forum. I've been on this forum only for a couple months, it's had its ups and downs for me, it's not the best forum but it's not the worst. There are plenty of long time members that have made this forum seem like a joke and they're usuay backed by their forum friends. I am able to see this only being here a short time, Vic and others have also seen it.
I’m just saying… do you know enough to make this comment? Yeah, there are “forum buddies” here. But there are also guys who have known each other for years, some live near each other and see each other in real life. Some even vacation together. Many met at an Experience and spent time together. I am in NONE of those groups. LOL. But a new guy coming in and talking about cliques…. Maybe new guys should get a read of the room and try to fit in, or see if they even want too, before calling out cliques and so forth. Just sayin.
I joined originally because of Lew
I did not know that.
 
I'm surprised about all of this. The only time I've been trolled was back in January of 2020 when I posted information about what was happening in China with Covid 19, along with a recommendation by a physician about trying to avoid catching and spreading it. One member called it "fear porn" and I tried to engage him with facts and that we should be avoiding infecting one another and his answers were always short and curt. I ended up hitting the "ignore" button on his screen name but from what I gather he acted that way to everyone else who questioned him and he eventually left.

That said, I didn't read many of his posts because the ones I did didn't interest me.
I said I was sorry for that! But you can’t go around claiming that Skyline Chili is NOT the cure for the global pandemic and expect us Cincinnatians to not shut that nonsense down! Oh, and you can ignore me, but I’m still here! HAHAHA

:D
 
I joined originally because of Lew
Hopefully you've seen this thread by Lew that went off-roading for the great majority of the thread. I thought it was one of the funniest threads I'd ever seen.

Lew obviously wasn't happy and said so. But it got back on track by the end and I don't remember any lingering animosity on Lew's part in his posts or in PM's or phone calls between us. We even swapped gear, I got one of the Gibson P90's he mentioned in the above 'hot dog' thread and last summer I sent him a Focusrite Scarlett interface, gratis, when he wanted to record some of his songs; he eventually sent it back when he got gear he liked better.
 
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