Vela question

[gush]

Hello forum members. I have some free time as of late and I'm trying to get back to my vela project.

Can somebody explain why the stock vela bridge pickup has polarity reversed?

I dropped in a covered 5310 that I had but center position is out of phase. I tested stock pickup and 5310, stock one is reversed.

I will flip mag on 5310 if I have to but I want to understand why I need to?

Any help is appreciated!

 

[Davey]

Dont know much about Velas or their wiring.
Is the neck pickup a 4 wire? Can you flip hot and ground and then it would be in phase with your 5310 in the middle position?
I know the 5-way rotary switch was wired reverse polarity to ensure humbucking in all modes but I thought the 3 way toggle wiring was the same polarity.
I know PRS pickups have had differences on polarity between US Core and the S2/SE pickups.
If the neck hot/ground swap doesn't do it, then a magnet swap in the bridge will.

 

[gush]

Dont know much about Velas or their wiring.
Is the neck pickup a 4 wire? Can you flip hot and ground and then it would be in phase with your 5310 in the middle position?
I know the 5-way rotary switch was wired reverse polarity to ensure humbucking in all modes but I thought the 3 way toggle wiring was the same polarity.
I know PRS pickups have had differences on polarity between US Core and the S2/SE pickups.
If the neck hot/ground swap doesn't do it, then a magnet swap in the bridge will.

I'm just trying to understand why ?

Vela is two pickups with 3 way toggle, shouldn't have magnet flipped .

 

[Davey]

Other members can chime in if I am incorrect on this.
Sometimes PRS can be a bit baffling with wiring and specs.
Paging @garrett

Agree that guitars with a five-way switch have always been reverse polarity. Three-way toggle models were not reverse polarity. Multi-Tap pickups are reverse polarity.
With all the new TCI and S pickups and such, it's hard to decipher what is standard and reverse polarity.

Since it appears the Vela pickups are reverse polarity, which I can only assume is to keep the noise down when both pickups are in single coil mode. Best bet is to flip the 5310 magnet to be in phase with the neck as its only a 2 wire and cannot be reverse wired.

 

[gush]

Other members can chime in if I am incorrect on this.
Sometimes PRS can be a bit baffling with wiring and specs.
Paging @garrett

Agree that guitars with a five-way switch have always been reverse polarity. Three-way toggle models were not reverse polarity. Multi-Tap pickups are reverse polarity.
With all the new TCI and S pickups and such, it's hard to decipher what is standard and reverse polarity.

Since it appears the Vela pickups are reverse polarity, which I can only assume is to keep the noise down when both pickups are in single coil mode. Best bet is to flip the 5310 magnet to be in phase with the neck as its only a 2 wire and cannot be reverse wired.

I will probably end up flipping the magnet when its all said and done but I'm trying to avoid that if possible as I might try several different pickups in this guitar.

Just trying to understand why it's flipped to begin with?

 

[Davey]

It's because the neck pickup is a single coil, so the bridge needed to be reverse polarity to be in phase with the single coil pickup and when the bridge is split it provides better hum cancelling between neck single coil and split (single coil) bridge.

SD produces a '59 reverse polarity pickup for use in teles for this reason.

 

[gush]

It's because the neck pickup is a single coil, so the bridge needed to be reverse polarity to be in phase with the single coil pickup and when the bridge is split it provides better hum cancelling between neck single coil and split (single coil) bridge.

SD produces a '59 reverse polarity pickup for use in teles for this reason.

Ok....thanks.....now I know. Guess I'll flip a magnet.....

 

[Prs Mods too]

Ok....thanks.....now I know. Guess I'll flip a magnet.....

But which one?

 

[Davey]

Ok....thanks.....now I know. Guess I'll flip a magnet.....

clear as mud...right!?
I was hoping maybe Garrett or someone could help explain it a little better than I have attempted to or maybe provide some sort of diagram to better illustrate.
There is information out there, but it can take a while to sift thru and get your head around it.
Good luck. Should sound killer with a 5310

 

[gush]

But which one?

That's what I'm getting at.

If I flip neck magnet , if that's even possible, is the whole guitar reverse polarity from my other guitars?

Confusing.