Vela Finish Cracking or Checking

Although not advertised: I find the s2 nitro to be VERY THIN when compared to cores or CE. It seems to sink in more. My previous vela had a bunch of checking unrelated to any trauma. It chipped easily. Even on new listings I swear I can see it already sinking in. I don’t know if this is something PRS does on mahogany guitars to mimic older SGs and the like? I find it odd that PRS mentions nothing of it. But absolutely no way is it the same as core level finishing.
Now fender and Gibson upcharges for this. It’s thought to let the guitar breathe, resonate, and relic faster. I can understand it on the s2 line. I probably wouldn’t be thrilled for the core to have similar reactions so soon
 
Hello Everyone,

I finally got my Vela back from PRS. They refinished it and indicated that there was an issue with the base coat. They also replaced the pickup selector switch, jack and jack plate and paid for shipping both ways.

The guitar looks and plays better than when I originally purchased it. What a great experience. This kind of service sells guitars. I know that when I purchase my next instrument I will consider buying another PRS.

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Hello Everyone,

I finally got my Vela back from PRS. They refinished it and indicated that there was an issue with the base coat. They also replaced the pickup selector switch, jack and jack plate and paid for shipping both ways.

The guitar looks and plays better than when I originally purchased it. What a great experience. This kind of service sells guitars. I know that when I purchase my next instrument I will consider buying another PRS.

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Happy for you! Beautiful guitar!
 
Hello Everyone,

I finally got my Vela back from PRS. They refinished it and indicated that there was an issue with the base coat. They also replaced the pickup selector switch, jack and jack plate and paid for shipping both ways.

The guitar looks and plays better than when I originally purchased it. What a great experience. This kind of service sells guitars. I know that when I purchase my next instrument I will consider buying another PRS.

x5SmvuX.jpeg
Everyone loves a happy ending.
TWSS.
 
Excellent!!
Glad everything worked out for you.
PRS is still small enough comparatively, that customer service is a key element of their success. Fender & Gibson have become so large, and their executives so disconnected from their customers, that finding resolution for problems is much more a gamble-- IMO anyway :D
 
3.5 months from OP to an outstanding resolution post on a re-finish? Am I reading and mathing right?
I mean, come on...
Who does that?
 
It did take a long time to fix. I was slow at getting the instrument shipped. When it got to PRS it had to wait in the queue to be worked on. Then it was delayed due to the holidays. Then it had one more delay due to a snowstorm. I was just thrilled to get the instrument refinished at no cost. I have not had very good luck with many guitar manufacturers dealing with various issues, especially when it comes to the finish.
 
That's awesome they fixed it up for you. When I saw the first picture it reminded me of the way some original 50's lp goldtop finishes check. Kind of an unusual finish checking pattern going vertically instead of horizontal. It actually looked kind of cool to me, but I'm weird.
 
Although not advertised: I find the s2 nitro to be VERY THIN when compared to cores or CE. It seems to sink in more. My previous vela had a bunch of checking unrelated to any trauma. It chipped easily. Even on new listings I swear I can see it already sinking in. I don’t know if this is something PRS does on mahogany guitars to mimic older SGs and the like? I find it odd that PRS mentions nothing of it. But absolutely no way is it the same as core level finishing.
Now fender and Gibson upcharges for this. It’s thought to let the guitar breathe, resonate, and relic faster. I can understand it on the s2 line. I probably wouldn’t be thrilled for the core to have similar reactions so soon
This is advertised, it’s a super thin finish *with no grain filler* for maximum resonance (and sexiness).
 
This is advertised, it’s a super thin finish *with no grain filler* for maximum resonance (and sexiness).
it is now. Initially it was not. I wasn't exactly happy to find it out when my 2022 594 thinline had it happen to it. Some heads up warning would have been cool. But now that it's clearly advertised on the site? I'd be ok.
 
Since PRS said it was a base coat issue, etc. I am sure that was it. And every company has their own Nitro formula.

BUT, a word from someone with a LOT of experience with guitars and checking. It does not aurprise me to see a checked ice blue guitar.

In my opinion/experience, the metallic finishes with nitro clear coats check a LOT more easily than plain solid colors or stains.

Is this because of the metallic nature of the paint getting colder or something else? I really can’t say definitively. Just that I have seen it a whole lot.

Secondly, hollow and semi-hollow guitars check more readily than solid body guitars. This one is easy to understand. For the same reason that it applies to acoustics. The ambient air penetrates and effects the wood so much faster, because of how thin it is relative to a slab of wood. And that means temp shifts are more likely to move the wood.

Thirdly, checking generally follows the nature of the wood grain. So on instruments with Typical linear wood grain, they’ll check along the length of the guitar. Exceptions to this are figured woods, like a flame maple will often check across the width, following the ripple in the flame. And quilts tend to “spiderweb” a bit. But there are exceptions to this. Metal hardware can kickstart checking along grain, or obliquely to it, just because it cools faster than the wood. So things like fixed bridge studs, strap buttons or tuners are often a starting point.

And lastly, areas of strain will also show checking first. Often because of “invisible damage becoming visible during cold temp flexes on the finish. Meaning areas like around the heel of the neck. Or up by the angle of the headstock, where the wood might flex over the years. From being played, having had the neck manually flexed or pushed, or even flexing in transit. The wood is 100% not damaged, but the hardened nitro doesn't flex as well as the wood. So invisible stretch marks can become visible if the wood shrinks and then expands again. It gives the fear of actual neck damage or body damage but was really just showing finish stressing that maybe wasn’t apparent at the time of the incidents. Or cumulatively.

All good reasons for people not disposed to it, to temporarily case guitars to give them a buffer between themselves and the temp shifts, especially this time of year. Depending on where you are. Can’t hurt.

I have a thermometer/hygrometer in my homebrew guitar cabinet, and even though it does a great job most of the year, on weeks like this one, I take the guitars out and move them to their cases.

Our house is temp controlled, with a whole house humidifier system installed. It helps a ton on winter. But even still, I see the needles move a bit more than I’d like, over the course of a few days. Generally things feel pretty even, but going by the numbers they do fluctuate.

Its 11 degrees out this morning. The system has been going hard for the last couple weeks. Last months electric bill was 😬. And I learned a long time ago not to hang guitars on exterior walls if possible. General room temp can be one thing, and wall temp something else altogether. Even with good insulation. Having a temp gun is handy.

Proceed with caution. For those who hang all the time, go back to rocking out when things get back above the freeze?
 
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