Updating tuners

[Tucson Thump]

I know the original winged locking tuners can't be directly replaced with newer locking tuners ( unless modified, as per the sticky) but it started me thinking.

Say you have a PRS model like a McCarty that doesn't come with locking tuners.
Will Phase II or Phase III tuners fit a McCarty headstock without extra drilling?

 

[xjbebop]

I can't answer your question, but I can say the old school tuners on my McCarty work great as is... simple and light...

 

[sergiodeblanc]

Maybe PIII's? Not sure if the ferrule's are the same size or not. I think half the allure of the Klusen-types are their light weight so... I'd probably leave 'em on a Mac.

 

[bodia]

I'm going to say typically not. I have a SC Ted that had Vintage tuners. I wanted to put Phase III's on it, but the collars are a different diameter. I couldn't get the old collars out so I ended up installing Vintage Kluson Locking tuners. They're ok, but I would have preferred Phase III's.

All things considered, I would yank Vinatge tuners in favor of locking, regardless of drilling needed. Just cuz I'm that lazy.

 

[bluenova]

The mounting holes line up close enough to work with phase iii's, but you do have to enlarge the tuner hole to get the ferrules to fit. I made the swap on a core Starla and an SE Zach Myers.

 

[gush]

John Mann makes vintage lockers to fit your Mccarty with no mods. Check em out.