Tremonti- trem vs stoptail

[WEDGE]

So I am jonesing big for a Tremonti, it would be perfect for what I am doing with the guys I am jamming with. I am also downsizing and moving a couple nice Knaggs, a Dean V, an American Strat Deluxe, and maybe my Custom 22. As I get older I have less desire to hoard guitars and am thinking a Tremonti would work for me with my Kramer, and maybe a Custom Shop Strat someday.

I have had a few Tremontis over the years and love them but never had one with a stoptail. I had an SC250 with an adjustable stoptail and like that feel so am thinking a stoptail Tremonti might be what I want seeing as how I have the trem/Floyd thing covered well. Any of you guys played or owned both a trem and stoptail Tremonti and notice a huge difference in the feel? Obviously it is different, I am talking about the height of the trem versus a stoptail, did you notice much in how your hand feels and your picking angle/attack?

I am sure I am overthinking it but will likely have to acquire one and have it shipped versus playing it first. Anyone have a thought on this? Or some pics of tasty Tremontis?!?

 

[Bogner]

I Am A Fan Of The Fixed Bridge Tremonti's Myself. Both Are Nice Though, No Doubt. I Sold The Trem Version I Had Because I Prefer The Original Neck Profile. IMO, The OG Tremonti's Are Fantastic Guitars. The 250's Are Nice As Well. Either Way You Go, It Would Be A Good Decision For You. It All Comes Down To Neck Profile. If PRS Would Make An Original Spec Tremonti I Would Buy Several. Since They Won't, I Am Sticking To The Original Models Or Something Similar.

 

[xxxadixxx]

@WEDGE great questions. I started with a trem Tremonti before adding two stop tails. I am now down to a single stop tail while my PS (another stop tail Tremonti) is in the oven. The short version from me, is that the stop tail is an amazing guitar. I am not a fan of trems nor do I need one so I am likely biased. I found the trem to be very comfortable, but the added height of the stop tail is more comfortable to me. My pick angle improved with the stop tail as well. The biggest difference is I found my index finger nail kept catching on the strings with the trem as a result of the angle/hand position. That is not an issue with the stop tail. Overall, I really enjoyed being able to compare both models.

Old picture, with only the charcoal remaining in my collection:

 

[sergiodeblanc]

Stoptails are good for rhythm players.

 

[Gtrbldr]

@WEDGE great questions. I started with a trem Tremonti before adding two stop tails. I am now down to a single stop tail while my PS (another stop tail Tremonti) is in the oven. The short version from me, is that the stop tail is an amazing guitar. I am not a fan of trems nor do I need one so I am likely biased. I found the trem to be very comfortable, but the added height of the stop tail is more comfortable to me. My pick angle improved with the stop tail as well. The biggest difference is I found my index finger nail kept catching on the strings with the trem as a result of the angle/hand position. That is not an issue with the stop tail. Overall, I really enjoyed being able to compare both models.

Old picture, with only the charcoal remaining in my collection:

Great write up and I have a similar experience.

Have been playing trem equipped guitars my whole life, but actually only the non recessed ones, with a serious neck angle, work well for me. The stoptails have that angle, but PRS trem equipped guitars, however great they are, don't. It has something to do with the right hand position as well as how the entire guitar sits agains te body, relative to the left arm and fretting hand, due to the neck angle.

Right now I am the proid owner of three McC/CU22 stoptails, one TOM w/bigsby and one gorgeous PRS CU24. Guess wich guitars get most airtime.

And, on top of the ergonomics: I prefer the tone of the stoptail. If that makes me a rhythm player: proud to be one ;-)

 

[Bogner]

Stoptails are good for rhythm players.

With That Kind Of Logic Then Trems Are Only Good For Wankers.

 

[WEDGE]

I am totally a rythym player and cool with it.

I am leaning towards a stoptail but am glad to get everyone’s input.

 

[Gtrbldr]

With That Kind Of Logic Then Trems Are Only Good For Wankers.

The wiggle stick is a clue


Right?

 

[bodia]

Hey @MA Pete you just jumped back in with both versions. Share your thoughts

 

[Bogner]

The wiggle stick is a clue


Right?

A Very Thin, Deformed Looking One At That...Poor Lil Thing.

 

[Headset]

I own both versions of the Tremonti and there are a couple of big feel differences. Palm muting on the right hand is more “narrow” on the stop tail. The difference between fully muted and barely muted is on a physically much smaller scale than the tremolo version. The stop tail strings sit higher than the tremolo but not as high as a two piece bridge like on the 594s. Bending feels slinkier on the tremolo because of the floating bridge. Tuning stability is a bit better on the stop tail but both will hold tune through an entire song. You would think there’d be more of a ring coming from the tremolo bridge but the stop tail also benefits from a wrap after the nut on the head stock. Overall I prefer the feel of the tremolo surprisingly. I’m generally a fixed bridge guy but PRS tremolos are amazing.

 

[WEDGE]

Good stuff, this is what I was hoping to hear for details on the difference. I like ten fin but almost never touch it so I considering a stoptail for tuning stability. Not that the prs remind an issue by any means.

 

[VHTStark]

There are slight differences in feel and tone, all other things being equal.

Trem: a bit more give under the fingers, a bit less low end response and a bit more bloom in the attack.

Stoptail: firmer/stiffer feel of strings under the fingers, a bit more low end thump and a more percussive attack.

Both are awesome and these are just the generalities I have noticed in the stoptail and trem PRS models I have owned and played over the years.

 

[WEDGE]

There are slight differences in feel and tone, all other things being equal.

Trem: a bit more give under the fingers, a bit less low end response and a bit more bloom in the attack.

Stoptail: firmer/stiffer feel of strings under the fingers, a bit more low end thump and a more percussive attack.

Both are awesome and these are just the generalities I have noticed in the stoptail and trem PRS models I have owned and played over the years.

This cements for me a stoptail.

 

[VHTStark]

This cements for me a stoptail.

My preference overall as well.

And if you REALLY want to bring the thump, see of you can locate a Tremonti stoptail with a rosewood neck and ebony board....

 

[WEDGE]

My preference overall as well.

And if you REALLY want to bring the thump, see of you can locate a Tremonti stoptail with a rosewood neck and ebony board....

Now your just talking dirty to me!

 

[Alnus Rubra]

With That Kind Of Logic Then Trems Are Only Good For Wankers.

Guess I’m a rhythmic “wanger”

 

[Bogner]

Now your just talking dirty to me!

Hey, If It Ain't Broke Don't Fix It!