The Official "McCarty 594" Love Thread!!

Discussion in 'Electric Instruments' started by MA Pete, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Mozzi

    Mozzi https://imgur.com/user/BAMozzy

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2018
    Messages:
    1,743
    Likes Received:
    2,778
    I think your Comprehension of what I wrote *SUCK*, - No offence!!

    My first paragraph was more to disagree with the percentages you attribute to each part of the construction - I really disagree that the body accounts for 85% of the effect of Tone Wood on the sound. I would agree that the body may help with the sustain but I think the bulk of the tone wood effect is the wood that's under the string and the area where the strings transfer energy (ie the nut and bridge). Experiments have been done removing the bulk of the body wood until it basically resembles a Steinberg and also a slot in system for the 'body' (the wings and back) but still keep the bridge and pick ups so you don't need to swap all the electrics, bridge, nut, tuners, strings etc over to ensure that they were consistent.

    In these tests, the tone has barely changed - sustain has varied more than the tone so the bulk of the body doesn't have a massive 85% impact on tone but as we know, the maple on top of a Mahogany body does make a difference. I can only attribute that to the body in the area where the strings and bridge are - also the thickest part of the maple on a carved top like a PRS.

    Anyway, the purpose of my post wasn't to disagree about Tone Wood but to disagree with the percentages you attributed to the various areas. The rest of my post was also to reinforce why I believe in tone wood (and not to challenge your belief) and to explain to any other (not JUST YOU) who may happen to read my post as this thread is open to ALL why I believe in tone wood and, if they didn't agree, provide information and examples of where they could find out more - ie by looking for Steve Vai's videos where Tone Wood comes up, why some necks are better on some guitars but maybe worse on another. Really, the only part of my Post that was specifically to you was the very first Paragraph that I put your name to so you would see that I was disagreeing with the 'percentages' you had attributed to the various parts. I think the neck, the heel and the part of the body that has the bridge and PU's where the Strings are above - basically the part of the body that a Neckthrough build would fit, is the most important part of the Woods for the tone. The wings on the body don't seem to make as much difference to Tone but do for sustain and resonance - obviously when the wings are hollow, the guitar is more resonant.

    Now you can look at my post above and see what was directly for you and the rest was more for the other readers of this particular thread as to why I too believe in tone wood. The bulk of this is also to you (but also for others if they want to read it) as to why the majority of my previous was more for other readers as well as to give you more information as to why I disagree that the body accounts for 85% of the effect of tone woods 50% maybe with the neck and Fretboard accounting for the rest - a Maple neck Cu24 sounds brighter than a Mahogany/Rosewood neck. To avoid going off again as to why I believe Tone Woods have an effect and why I disagree with your percentages only (not disagreeing with you on the tone wood debate as BOTH my posts show), I will end this here. Hopefully now you will look at my posts and see that both are agreeing with you about tone wood, offering why I believe in it for you and any of the numerous others that may be reading this thread, and why I think your percentages are not correct.
     
    bodia likes this.
  2. ViperDoc

    ViperDoc Plugged In.

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2013
    Messages:
    2,933
    Likes Received:
    2,807
    THAT IS GORGEOUS.

    Maple neck, SH, Brazzie board, Boyd Burst. Is that a one-off? Never seen one quite like it. Congrats!
     
    Groberts likes this.
  3. Groberts

    Groberts New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2016
    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    83
    Thanks ViperDoc. My local shop is a PRS Dealer and spec'd this guitar from the PRS Wood Library with a Flamed Maple 10- top and they specially ordered it with a flame maple neck and Brazilian fingerboard.

    I love the deep dark chocolate color of the Brazilian fingerboard and the way it pops visually against the Boyd Burst flame maple top. The Top flame is so classy without being overly flashy. The flame has super cool cross-grain and I LOVE the Flame maple neck. The maple neck, (flame maple) is a unique feature that makes this a custom variation. I believe PRS normally uses Mahogany for the necks on McCarty 594 models.

    Here is a quick attempt at making a video recording. I have not been playing electric guitar for the past year, so I was overzealous and not exactly nailing what I wanted to accomplish.

     
  4. Tremontinator

    Tremontinator Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2019
    Messages:
    755
    Likes Received:
    469
    Bodi
    I'm not subtle. And nobody can explain what tact is. Just the same old "If you have enough tact, you can tell a man to "go to hell", and have him ask you for directions."

    Well, IDK how to do that. And if I want to tell a man to go to hell, I'll just tell him to go to hell, and he can find his own damn way xD


    Mozzi
    I think we both misunderstood each other, bro. I apologise for my part in that. (Apologize or apologise?)


    You know what's funny, everybody says maple sounds brighter and rosewood sounds darker.

    I think this is the video



    To my ears, the rosewood sounded brighter and a little more airy.


    I only brought up the woods thing because I feel like people put too much stock in it.

    Yes, it makes a difference. Yes, it's important but, several other factors are more important.

    Let's say for the sake of argument, you had perfectly identical... IDK Flying V guitars. One's got an Ash body, one's got a basswood body. Everything else is identical.

    Let's say you plug the Ash into an AC30, and you want the basswood to sound the same way.
    Well, it's going to be a long damn ways off if you plug it into a Blackface. And it's never going to get closer than plugging it into the same AC30.

    The point I'm trying to make it that woods aren't everything.

    And

    When you've got SoloDallas on YouTube perfectly recreating Angus Young's tones, it makes you reconsider that whole "tone is in the hands" story.

    I definitely want to see a lot more research into that. I don't think it's an anomaly. I bet if you got all of the correct gear, you could duplicate other people's tones exactly. IDK that for a fact but, I would place a fairly decent wager on it. I think it's something that more people should look into. Simply because I find it hard to believe that only one person out there can perfectly recreate one man's tones from across his entire career...
     
  5. g.wizz

    g.wizz Nabs

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2012
    Messages:
    2,452
    Likes Received:
    1,353
    Very nice and articulate tone and playing
    Thnks for sharing
     
    Alnus Rubra and Groberts like this.
  6. Dead&Co

    Dead&Co New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2018
    Messages:
    216
    Likes Received:
    764
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
    #2086 Dead&Co, Aug 11, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2019
    grausch, bodia, Andy80 and 1 other person like this.
  7. HANGAR18

    HANGAR18 What Would Evel Knievel Do?

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2013
    Messages:
    2,055
    Likes Received:
    1,761
    My McCarty 594's

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Tahlee, Andy80, Glide-bpm and 9 others like this.
  8. WA Paul

    WA Paul It’s ok...I’m with Manny dog

    Joined:
    May 11, 2017
    Messages:
    3,098
    Likes Received:
    6,457
    Trifecta!
     
    HANGAR18 likes this.
  9. Glide-bpm

    Glide-bpm We were small but we were slow...

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2016
    Messages:
    2,260
    Likes Received:
    3,947
    Sweet baby Jesus!!!
     
    HANGAR18 likes this.
  10. Andy80

    Andy80 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    376
    Man I need one of these.
     
  11. Andy80

    Andy80 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    376
    Yeah I just came from playing one again, and I'll reiterate, I really really need one of these guitars. Amazing.
     
    garrett likes this.
  12. garrett

    garrett knows just enough to be dangerous

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    5,522
    Likes Received:
    6,249
    Absolutely. I don't even care about the updates for 2020 because my 2016 still puts a big grin on my face every time I pick it up.
     
  13. Andy80

    Andy80 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    376
    Yep. I tried 3 and they all pretty much play exactly the same too. In fact, I would rather buy one sooner, than order one, because I need those locking tuners.
     
    garrett likes this.
  14. ADD

    ADD New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2013
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    67
    I’ve had my 594 SH for over 4 months and it is one of the finest guitars I have owned. Easy on the eye, lightweight at under 7lbs is a bonus and more importantly, great sounding instrument.

    [​IMG]
     
    Andy80, bodia, MA Pete and 2 others like this.
  15. Mozzi

    Mozzi https://imgur.com/user/BAMozzy

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2018
    Messages:
    1,743
    Likes Received:
    2,778
    I still love my 2016 DC 594 too...

    [​IMG]

    I certainly have NO intention of trading it in against a 2020 spec version. I would however buy a 594 Hollowbody ii and preferably any built before they swap to 'vintage' tuners. I don't care that they are lighter or have any 'tonal' difference, and I know locking tuners do not impact tuning stability IF you wrap the string correctly, I want the convenience and more 'modern' aesthetic - even if the guitar is more vintage inspired.

    Of course, others may have their own opinion but I wouldn't be going out of my way to seek out a 2020 spec 594 and can even make do with my HBii as that has the 58/15 LT's (albeit without the nitro, TCI process or coil splitting options) because my 2016 594 is such a great guitar. I admit that I am being seriously tempted to add a 594 HBii but with the current global situation, I am managing to resist right now - but that gets harder each day LOL...

    As I don't 'need' multiples of a model in my collection as I don't need a 'back-up' or an alternative tuning I can swap to in a hurry if needed, I tend to look for guitars that add 'something' to my toolbox that my other instruments can't do. I think a 2020 594 maybe great, but I don't know that its going to be worth me trading in my 2016 594 for...

    Again though, others may feel differently and if you don't have a 594 already, the newer specs, particularly the nitro finish, may well be a reason enough for them to look for a newer version...
     
    Andy80, bodia, g.wizz and 4 others like this.
  16. iLookLikeElvis

    iLookLikeElvis New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2019
    Messages:
    203
    Likes Received:
    387
    Anyone know which replacement pickup rings are "correct" for the 594? I picked a set of the universal angle ones from @John Mann but they look considerably shorter than the stock rings (e.g. they're not as high). Was hoping to replace my stock creme ones with black ones.
     
  17. Andy80

    Andy80 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    376
    Gorgeous guitar, and finish, and playing. Nice! Sweet Tele too (am I allowed to say that on here? ha)
    Always liked boyd burst too.
     
  18. Andy80

    Andy80 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2013
    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    376
    I went to go like this post, and found that I'd already liked it. In any case, I like it, just so we're clear.
     
    dogrocketp, Warmart and veinbuster like this.
  19. garrett

    garrett knows just enough to be dangerous

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    5,522
    Likes Received:
    6,249
    The universal angle will work fine. That's what was used on the earlier ones. In the last couple years, they started using taller rings, but they do not seem to be available aftermarket.
     
    bodia and iLookLikeElvis like this.
  20. iLookLikeElvis

    iLookLikeElvis New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2019
    Messages:
    203
    Likes Received:
    387
    Cool, thanks @garrett - I'll give it a go!
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice