The Forum Guitar

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  1. markie

    markie 11Top's personal Chauffeur

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    I would guess that the inlays are part of the program on the "Core" production lines for fretboards. They are typically all the same inlays & it would make sense to machine those at the same time as fret slots. I do not know these to be a fact, but it makes sense from a production standpoint.
     
  2. rugerpc

    rugerpc A♥ hoards guitars ♥A
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    I'm not certain, but I think they are still done separately, the inlay holes on CNC and the fret slots cut on ganged drum saws.

    PPS has saws set up for each of their usual scale lengths. They look like this one:

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  3. goof1073

    goof1073 New Member

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    Can someone confirm if this is a Non-CNC change or not; cause I'm pretty sure it's not. Shawn's employee guitar video clearly shows a fret-board with only the birds inlay pockets cut (no fret slots, etc.):

    So unless there is some kind of rough radius applied to the board during the inlay CNC operation I really do think it's a matter of skipping a step.
     
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  4. jxe

    jxe babe en der wood

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    ltd or not, liking the idea of no inlays and blank headstock.
     
  5. jxe

    jxe babe en der wood

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    also is that a 19-fret drum saw?
     
  6. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    I admire Bill for wanting to take this project on. He’s a great guy and a hard working representative of this forum’s interests.

    It’s easy to see that when all is said and done, though, this is a pretty tall order. None of the folks here are going to part with their hard-earned guitar funds unless they get something they individually truly want.

    There’s nothing wrong with that. Seems to me, the choice of musical instrument for a serious player certainly ought to be the subject of careful consideration, and as much individual thought as possible.

    So I’m not criticizing. That’s exactly how I’d feel, too.

    It’s also a reflection on the individuality and independence of the folks who love PRS guitars. Recognizing the character of their customer is probably one reason that PRS offers lots of choices in models, colors, and other options. How can a collective decision possibly satisfy anything but a small minority of this group? From what I’ve observed over the last 6 years or so, this is a group that takes every little detail VERY seriously. ;)

    There are those who, rightly, think an instrument that represents the aspirations and solidarity of this forum is a great idea. Despite the seeming contradiction, I agree with them. It’d be awesome!

    I say again: I admire Bill for wanting to do this.

    By the same token, it’s an impractical idea. There are a lot of chefs in this kitchen, and they have a lot of opinions, desires, and want individual input on baking this cake, including all the ingredients.

    Consider how long it took to accomplish something as simple as a forum truss rod cover. Multiply that by a googleplex, and you have what we have here.

    If someone simply spec’d a model, and offered it to the members, a few might really want it! But to agree in advance on a collective custom guitar?

    You’re going to have to get any proposal through our local party members, afterward to the central committee of those who remain willing, then to the politburo composed of those who make a commitment, and finally to the powers that be for the final yea or nay.

    That’s a thankless task.
     
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  7. Alnus Rubra

    Alnus Rubra Loving nature’s wonders

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    @[email protected] ”you got your owl?....”

    Great video, they are some precision cut inlay routs!
     
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  8. Mozzi

    Mozzi Make sure its Fire Red Burst...

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    If its a case of NOT changing the inlays, certainly in shape at least, why not have a special 'bird' at the 12th - maybe just a different colour bird to match the body colour for example - fire red and a red bird on the 12th. Even if you had Forum on a Truss Cover or other removable part, it would still be obvious by the different colour bird at the 12th.

    Depending on how far you want or can go, you could have all the Birds in the whole rainbow of colours. Its not going to cost PRS any more as the necks will still be cut for birds, they already have the birds cut too so its just a case of dropping in the coloured birds instead...
     
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  9. rugerpc

    rugerpc A♥ hoards guitars ♥A
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    OK, There seems to be some support for either doing no inlays or substituting a contrasting (same shape) inlay at the 12th fret, so I asked.

    Both ideas are interesting and appealing, but the answer is no.

    sorry.
     
  10. rugerpc

    rugerpc A♥ hoards guitars ♥A
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    Also, the price point is fairly well set around the mid $4k mark for a WL run. That's assuming we use non-upcharge materials. Note that there are LOTS of really cool non-upcharge choices in the WL. Note also that we cannot discuss exact pricing here. IF we get that far, you will discuss pricing directly with the dealer.

    We'll get to the model and materials polls soon.
     
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  11. Shawn@PRS

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    Umm, yeah I got it. :)

    cut outs.jpg
     
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  12. rugerpc

    rugerpc A♥ hoards guitars ♥A
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    Shawn, you should take your guitar into PTC and have them put that owl on the neck heel...
     
  13. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    A bit...rococo perhaps?
     
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  14. rugerpc

    rugerpc A♥ hoards guitars ♥A
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    Well, with an owl, it's rohoothoot.
     
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  15. Alnus Rubra

    Alnus Rubra Loving nature’s wonders

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    It was the quote from your colleague on the vid!

    It’s definitely gotta be part of the build somewhere. That’s some fantastic abalone, really figured :D
     
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  16. Shawn@PRS

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    That's Paul's design for a new truss rod :)
     
  17. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    No doubt! As it should be!

    Here ya go, how they created inlaid marquetry during the Rococo period; it’s kind of fascinating, actually:

     
  18. Alnus Rubra

    Alnus Rubra Loving nature’s wonders

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    Oooh, bitey!! Is it two-way?!;)
     
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  19. ScottR

    ScottR If nobody saw it, it didn't happen.

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    What owl? You mean the turtle? As in the turtle at the 24th...Owls...that's funny.

    ;):p
     
  20. 11top

    11top Cousin Eddie's cousin

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    Who?
     
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