I'm giving the edge to the 59 LP, but not by as much as I would have thought.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9cE8pV9vnQY
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9cE8pV9vnQY
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I agree with one of the posters there who basically said how can you compare when he's just playing with a lot of distortion. The real test is when you play clean to distorted and hear what kind of dynamics it's capable of. How much fatness and richness it retains as you turn it don and get cleaner. How dynamic, etc. I DON'T however agree with him when he says they both sound "$hitty".
Personally I always plug in clean when trying out a guitar, but this is Marsden's tone demo. I listened to this without watching the video and unless really trying couldn't tell the difference. Then I tried looking when I thought he switched and hit a few and missed most. While watching I could "hear" the difference which means the visual is likely coloring my hearing.
I have to say, if that's a stock SE that he's playing, or if it's a proto-type that matches an out of the box SE Bernie, then I'm really impressed.
I have to say, if that's a stock SE that he's playing, or if it's a proto-type that matches an out of the box SE Bernie, then I'm really impressed.
CoreyT
PRS Addiction
Very cool video.
Both guitars sounded great to me.
Both guitars sounded great to me.
I certainly don't hear thousands of dollars difference between the two guitars. Maybe I could tell more of a difference live instead of the on the youtube grade audio...
It just made me laugh that much more reading the comments. Fanboys gotta rave, haters gotta hate.
Considering that so very few of the viewers can, or will ever be able to, play as well as Bernie, myself included, it would be really, really hard to justify buying the LP over the SE Bernie. But most of the commenters would try to do just that.
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It just made me laugh that much more reading the comments. Fanboys gotta rave, haters gotta hate.
Considering that so very few of the viewers can, or will ever be able to, play as well as Bernie, myself included, it would be really, really hard to justify buying the LP over the SE Bernie. But most of the commenters would try to do just that.
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Mikegarveyblues
Cream Crackered
Guitarist mag did a comparison between the Beast, Bernie and an LP and the Bernie came out very favourably indeed. The 59LP edged it but (if I remember correctly) the Bernie was closer to the Beast than the LP they used. Both sounded Fairly good in that vid to Me but there's other bids from that series where both guitars sounded incredible... But that's Bernie more than anything. That guitar was stock except for some out of phase mod that was supposed to be a feature but isn't. The SE Bernie that he currently uses has US PRS pups.
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Oh... I don't know... These sorts of comparison videos are fun, but they don't really get at the meat of the issue to me.
I actually couldn't hear any noticeable difference between these guitars in this video. Yeah, I might have been able to hear a difference if it was run clean...and who knows which one I'd pick.
That doesn't have anything to do with the appeal of a vintage Les Paul to me though. Now I'm definitely not saying that a vintage 'burst is worth the price of admission for me. But the appeal has more to do with what it is and represents and how if feels and how it makes you feel than some objective measure of tone. I don't know of may people who are into vintage Les Pauls that would argue that they can really hear some magical difference in real-world situations. I have a couple of vintage P90 Les Pauls though (which while still pricey, aren't THAT much more than a blinged out PRS private stock) and they are just really fun to play. Most of that comes from knowing what it is...sure.... Some of that has to do with the "feel" which does seem different than modern stuff. Maybe some of it has to do with pickups and aged wood and whatever...but none of that would in my opinion come through on a recording. My SC Ted and SC58 sound every bit as good as any vintage Les Paul I've ever played and I wouldn't give them up for anything. They might even beat out a vintage LP in a blind test. I still loves me some vintage LPs though...
I actually couldn't hear any noticeable difference between these guitars in this video. Yeah, I might have been able to hear a difference if it was run clean...and who knows which one I'd pick.
That doesn't have anything to do with the appeal of a vintage Les Paul to me though. Now I'm definitely not saying that a vintage 'burst is worth the price of admission for me. But the appeal has more to do with what it is and represents and how if feels and how it makes you feel than some objective measure of tone. I don't know of may people who are into vintage Les Pauls that would argue that they can really hear some magical difference in real-world situations. I have a couple of vintage P90 Les Pauls though (which while still pricey, aren't THAT much more than a blinged out PRS private stock) and they are just really fun to play. Most of that comes from knowing what it is...sure.... Some of that has to do with the "feel" which does seem different than modern stuff. Maybe some of it has to do with pickups and aged wood and whatever...but none of that would in my opinion come through on a recording. My SC Ted and SC58 sound every bit as good as any vintage Les Paul I've ever played and I wouldn't give them up for anything. They might even beat out a vintage LP in a blind test. I still loves me some vintage LPs though...
I think the sole purpose of this isn't to somehow have people decide which guitar wins.
It's to demonstrate that the far less expensive SE Marsden is a pro quality guitar that sounds great even compared with an acknowledged classic.
In that it succeeds. Therefore PRS makes its point.
It's to demonstrate that the far less expensive SE Marsden is a pro quality guitar that sounds great even compared with an acknowledged classic.
In that it succeeds. Therefore PRS makes its point.
Exactly. What I think is interesting is the possibility of a Korean made, PRS speced, guitar that can be had for under $1K US (heck toss in some US pickups) and that could come close to sounding like a real good '58.
I think it's safe to assume that PRS has the formula to make some incredible classic sounding tone machines at just about any price point. So, what happens to the PRS are sterile argument now?
I think it's safe to assume that PRS has the formula to make some incredible classic sounding tone machines at just about any price point. So, what happens to the PRS are sterile argument now?
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