The “Santana/Original” body shape!

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  1. C_corie

    C_corie New Member

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    Does anyone have a list of all “Core” guitars using this shape and/or the evolution of it before the Custom 24 became the go to PRS?

    (Updated) From my understanding it was:

    Late 70s early 80s one offs

    Then SA series

    Santana production model(S)

    West Street LTD

    DC22

    KL33

    Private stock - Howard Leese
     
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  2. Iceman101

    Iceman101 There's always room for one more.....

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  3. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    Don't forget the KL-33
     
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    C_corie New Member

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    I’m so annoyed I didn’t get a KL33 when GC was blowing them out, they didn’t have birds I don’t think or maybe it was outline birds? Something about that annoyed me at the time, lol.
     
  5. Bowtiefanatc

    Bowtiefanatc Confirmed Bird Snob

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    None of the KL series had birds.
     
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    C_corie New Member

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    That’s probably why I passed, GC was blowing them out cheap in 2012-13 or so I think?
     
  7. DISTORT6

    DISTORT6 NJ Devil

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    Does the Mira count?
     
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  8. C_corie

    C_corie New Member

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    I wouldn’t count the Mira mostly because of the pick guard and it’s not really a super carved top- in the same way I wouldn’t really count SE/S2 models.

    Also who WOULD be interested in a sub $4500 Santana body style Core guitar without binding? Maybe if we had enough people we could ask PRS for a limited run?
     
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  9. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Too Funky

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  10. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Too Funky

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    Honestly, the Santana guitar PRS has been putting out the last... IDK, 6-7 years? Are ridiculous values!

    Santana’s used to to be $7000 or some sh!t, and that’s not including inflation. Retro’s and the model before that are priced like regular production Core guitars now, and they’re excellent guitars!

    This one that I have is probably one of, if not the best made guitar I own:

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    And the Retro is packed with a pile of unique features, at the price of a CU24... purfling, binding, rosewood headstock overlay with an eagle... they’re [email protected] bargains if you ask me.
     
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  11. Emmanuel

    Emmanuel New Member

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    Yes, please.
    A Santana core release based on the limited ones (Santana I crossroads pre-factory) would be more great.
    Do not like the neck binding on the core retros, but that is just me..
     
  12. C_corie

    C_corie New Member

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    YUP! The binding is weird and all the ones before either had binding or crappy birds for the last idk 6-8 years now?

    I’d even settle for solid mahogany to keep the price down, or ease of making it.
     
  13. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Too Funky

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    How are these “crappy” birds?

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    You mean like one of these?

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    Still more expensive than a Retro or a Signature.
     
  14. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    I rather liked the birds on my 2018.....

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  15. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    I have to agree with this. There is a particular Retro that I am stalking at, imo, a silly price compared to what they previously were.
     
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  16. ScottR

    ScottR If nobody saw it, it didn't happen.

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    Yeah...those and the hollow birds (I don't know the official name) are my favorites. No crappiness I can see.
     
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    C_corie New Member

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    What I’m saying is that since 2006/007 the model has had slight changes that most people do like or don’t like:

    hollow birds
    Dirt birds
    Slightly better 2013/14 birds
    binding off and on since 2010?
    new deeper carves

    And it’s had on and off neck binding, so finding one with decent birds and no binding is not easy.

    Add to that the retro model is great with the deeper carves and stuff but the binding isn’t how it’s supposed to be and for the price the birds aren’t amazing.

    I’m just saying I have a 2014 CU24 the birds are fine, decent....I don’t love the rosewood headstock and 5 way blade, but it was on clearance so I got it, it was a 10 top.

    My point I guess, is that I’d love to see a solid mahogany or maple topped Santana STYLE, core guitar with no binding and “old birds” and maybe slightly more “traditional” color combos, if it’s maple topped.

    I just think if they made a “modern” version of the 1980 west st.....no Brazilian, no mahogany cap, old school birds, for $2999 $3499, people would buy them up, even $3799 and they’d be gone fast.

    I think people want a slightly simpler model from PRS without spending 7K or more.
     
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  18. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Too Funky

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    Well, I agree that PRS should do something with the West Street platform. I think it’d be cool, and it’d certainly be nice to want a new PRS guitar but... they seem to be focusing on “strats” and “Les Paul’s” at the moment. :rolleyes:

    But whatever, I’ll simply never understand what people spend their money on. :p

    Edit: Put the CU24 up for sale/trade, there are suckers out there. ;)
     
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    C_corie New Member

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    I like my CU24 because the Tort color and burgundy-ish back ALMOST go with the rosewood. Unless they come back with black headstock and 3 way toggle/5 way rotary it’ll just have to do for now

    I ordered one of those Santana SE all mahogany from 2016 or so...I figure it’ll help me decide if I really need the “real” version.
     
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    ... all this talk about Santanas sort of make me want to have one :p
     
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