So You Think You're A Real Musician Eh??? What Qualifies?

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  1. Rockmark

    Rockmark New Member

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    I often wondered if I am. I know I'm not professional since I don't play for cash. However I do know you can stick me in the mix in most cases and I hold my own w most of the local pros. So does one need formal musical training. Do you need to have been in groups/bands. Years on the road playing for audiences. Or just a home player w some friends for fun once in a while. What if one is just shitty and keeps playing for the enjoyment or love of it. Is he a musician. Or one with no training but a great ability to feel the music and just hang by ear. Where do you fit and what do you feel qualifies someone to be called a musician/artist? o_O
     
  2. DickBanks

    DickBanks New Member

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    You play one little ditty for someone other than yourself, and they smile, BINGO-you're a musician.

    And truthfully, it really doesn't get any better than that.
     
  3. alantig

    alantig Sassyless pants

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    Although, truthfully, you don’t even need the other person.
     
  4. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Hmmm...
    I call myself a "player", and sometimes I even wonder about that.
    Musician? I dunno.
    I play in a band, and I'm comfy with that rhythm role. I think I pull that off fairly well, and we are pretty dang tight... mostly:rolleyes:
    I suck at playing lead, and I suck at improv.
    I understand written time (played percussion in school), but the notes elude me.
    Player... yeah that's right...
    Am I having a pile of fun doing it? Boo yeah!!!
     
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  5. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    Here’s what The Oxford Dictionary says:

    “A person who plays a musical instrument, especially as a profession, or is musically talented.”

    So if you’re a person who plays a musical instrument, you’re in by definition. You don’t have to be professional. Talent is an optional “or” deal.

    The dictionary doesn’t lie; that’s what the word means.

    Audiences, money, and talent aren’t required. The definition doesn’t say you have to be any good, or even practice!

    I write/play music as a profession, so I’m in, too. Welcome to my world. It’s as easy to call yourself a musician as it is to call yourself a bum, though true bumhood might take more effort. Fortunately, most professional guitar players qualify as both musicians and bums. ;)
     
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  6. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    I've been called a bum much more often than a musician... so there's that...:p
     
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  7. WEDGE

    WEDGE Almost was a FG22 owner..

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    I am definitely not a musician but I love to play guitar, as long as I can amuse myself I deem myself worthy.
     
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  8. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    The good thing about being a bum AND a musician is being able to entertain the volunteers at the soup kitchen while you’re getting your free meal and warming up.
     
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  9. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    The bummer about being a bum is not being able to buy more PRS, and that's a bum deal.
     
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  10. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    Oh, I don’t buy them. I get them for free as birthday presents from myself. :)
     
  11. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Well then maybe I can bum one off ya!
     
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  12. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    You’ll have to ask the guy who gives them to me if it’s OK.
     
  13. veinbuster

    veinbuster Coming of age

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    I don’t have to be good to be a cyclist. I just have to ride my bike.
    No reason for being a musician to be different than that.
     
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  14. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    When I was in college, a woman told me, “You can always tell a gentleman by his shoes.”

    The corollary to that is, “You can always tell a bum by his guitar case.”
     
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  15. veinbuster

    veinbuster Coming of age

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    Because he keeps his shoes in it?
     
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  16. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Only wingtips.
    Sneakers go in speakers
     
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  17. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    No, because he lost his violin case and has no place else to keep his tommy gun.
     
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  18. gush

    gush New Member

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    Interesting question. I was a trumpet player in HS and there is a long line of musicians on my dad's side of the family.

    I don't have any formal education in music but I have the burning desire to play and I do have the "gift" and my son has it too.

    There are times that I wish college would have worked out for me but that's water under the bridge. I push my son to be the best he can be with his music endeavors so maybe he will have opportunities that I didn't.

    Am I a musician? Hell Yes I am. I've played as a weekend warrior and I've played for a living. I've eaten cheethos with a fork to make it feel like a meal. I've purchased cool gear with money that my day job provides me.

    I've got what seems like thousands of songs that I can pull off from years of working up material. I can hear a song and figure it out without even picking a note.

    I'm 53 now and have been involved in music since 5th grade. Do others think of me as a musician?? No clue. Do I really care?? Not so much.

    I am a musician but if I'm not by somebody else's standards then so be it.
     
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  19. Boogie

    Boogie SuperD

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    The homeless guy I watched busking in Nashville one year proved that regardless of what I achieve in my life as a “musician”, I’ll never be as talented as him. By most definitions I’m a wanna-be hack, and I’m ok with it. Some of our audiences may not be ok with it, but that’s what chicken wire is for.
     
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  20. Glide-bpm

    Glide-bpm We were small but we were slow...

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    If you can play a little on an instrument, you've done more than most of the earth's population...

    If you like what you play, you're a musician...
     
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