Silver Sky Bridge set up tone difference.

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Quick share on my experience of the difference in tone due to bridge set up.
My two silver sky guitars came set up differently from the factory due to slight differences in neck to body angle. (Rather than spend time getting the neck joint angle exact to allow what I would consider a superior bridge set up PRS seem to adjust things at the bridge during set up to compensate.)
One was set up with the bridge completely decked out on the body. The other the bridge was jacked up by about 1mm so only the rear was touching, and the block viewed from the rear of the guitar where the strings pass through was at an angle meaning the springs were exerting less tension on it. This guitar had perceptibly less bass and a very annoying harsh overtone on higher notes that prompted me to change pickups which only partially fixed this. I tuned it down the other day to E flat and the tone improved a lot, leading me to believe that with the extra spring tension on the bridge pulling the bridge down onto the body detuning would cause, had improved the tone.
It was impossible to drop the bridge down onto the body as the saddles would then be too low to achieve proper string height so I began searching for longer saddle screws, which I found, but didn’t fit the PRS saddles, so I resorted to swapping the saddles out completely for some slightly taller aftermarket ones that required minimal modification to fit the ‘rails’ that the saddle screws fit in. Anyway, all set up with these new saddles allowed the bridge to be completely decked out as, in my opinion, it should have been delivered from the factory, and the tone is now better than my first silver sky which by the way is noticeable heavier and why it wasn’t my main guitar.
The difference in sound I am convinced is due to the difference in bridge set up rather than change in saddles.
Paul’s take on this subject is that either set up works try both and see shat you prefer. Be interesting to hear which his favourite is and why he doesn’t choose to have all ss guitars leaving his factory set up to his preference rather than doing the easy fix with bridge adjustment.
The difference is night and day in terms of tone.
 
It makes complete sense.. I’m really surprised that PRS hasn’t figured out the correct and consistent neck angle the S Sky’s should have. They’ve got it down to a science with their set neck guitars. Even my Santana SE trem bridge is perfect, but that’s still a set neck guitar. That one and my DGT both use 4 springs
 
The gap and angle of the bridge is actually how it’s intended to be set up. The one you have where the bridge is completely decked was likely changed to that by someone after it left PRS.
 
No you’re wrong there. My guitar came straight from the factory like this. It is one of the early runs.
I researched this about the time I bought the second one and I found a video of Paul himself chatting about this very subject.
He says they ship either way and either set up can work.
 
This is why I hardly ever post on these forums. You post something that you think maybe of use or interest to others and then someone comes along and tells you you’re wrong.
I’m not getting drawn into this. I know what I know I don’t have to justify or evidence my factual experience.
Believe me or not. I don’t care.
 
This is why I hardly ever post on these forums. You post something that you think maybe of use or interest to others and then someone comes along and tells you you’re wrong.
I’m not getting drawn into this. I know what I know I don’t have to justify or evidence my factual experience.
Believe me or not. I don’t care.
I can relate to your frustration because I, too, am right 100% of the time about everything.

I drop my pearls of wisdom here and there with the best of intentions, yet a few ingrates have the unmitigated gall to disagree with me!

Honestly, they ought to be ashamed of themselves, and this is why I no longer post on the internet.

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I have searched for the video of Mr Smith and as yet i haven’t found it.
Link is to an early review of the Silver Sky. Unfortunately it is plagued by ads but you can clearly see the bridge decked out flat. They also refer to an increase in treble when floating the bridge. So presumably a non floating but raised bridge that isn’t in full contact with the body will also result in an increase in treble as per my original post. Or maybe just a loss in bass. Thought I’d throw that possibility in before i am corrected again. Who knows?
Another annoying point about having the bridge at an angle is any intonation adjustment will also alter the string height.
I am sure that the bridge on my second ss was only raised slightly to compensate for running out of thread on the saddle screws. Cheap fix.
 
neck angles vary on the SS bolt ons. Some come from the factory with multiple shims while others do not come with any. It’s intended for the silver sky to come decked with a small gap toward the front of the bridge, but I’m sure some variance exist or some dealer tweaked it since they may not be familiar with the SS and set it up like a fender. This also high lights an issue that many guys don’t like and why they stick to set necks. Never have to worry about shimming or resetting a neck.
 
This is why I hardly ever post on these forums. You post something that you think maybe of use or interest to others and then someone comes along and tells you you’re wrong.
I’m not getting drawn into this. I know what I know I don’t have to justify or evidence my factual experience.
Believe me or not. I don’t care.
No, he asked for a link (which I would have done if someone hadn’t beaten me too it) because we’ve all seen multiple videos talking about how the SS bridge is decked in the back, raised in the front, and even included photos. And, like me (who has watched every factory, or PRS endorsed video on these, I’ve never heard of them setting them decked in the front and back. So… I would like to see a link where Paul says that because it contradicts what I’ve seen him, and others, say. And it even contradicts what they show on their web site.
 
I like my Silver Sky's better with the bridge set up to float.
Both my 18 and 19 came set up with set to drop only trem use , not fully decked.
As for your case , I would consider a couple different option if you like the trem decked best
1) lightly sand the neck heel ( I have done this for years on aftermarket Tele and Strat necks )
2) a 1/32 steel or brass plate under the bride so you can get the bridge at the correct height and have full body contact
3) a different idea lift the front of the bridge again and add a 5th spring and so there is more tension a mass when the back of the bridge is touching the body.
4) raise the bridge and set it up to a standard PRS 1/16th off the body , then block the trem.
lastly Phase 3 saddles , I believe from eyeball they would give you more vertical adjustment.

Hope everything works out !!!
 
I like my Silver Sky's better with the bridge set up to float.
Both my 18 and 19 came set up with set to drop only trem use , not fully decked.
As for your case , I would consider a couple different option if you like the trem decked best
1) lightly sand the neck heel ( I have done this for years on aftermarket Tele and Strat necks )
2) a 1/32 steel or brass plate under the bride so you can get the bridge at the correct height and have full body contact
3) a different idea lift the front of the bridge again and add a 5th spring and so there is more tension a mass when the back of the bridge is touching the body.
4) raise the bridge and set it up to a standard PRS 1/16th off the body , then block the trem.
lastly Phase 3 saddles , I believe from eyeball they would give you more vertical adjustment.

Hope everything works out !!!
Those are all great suggestions @Rider1260
 
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