Should I make the 59/09 bridge pup splittable?

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  1. MichaelS

    MichaelS I'm here for the free kool-aid...

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    Putting a 59/09 into the bridge of a '16 CE24 Standard.

    Debating whether to make the 59/09 splittable

    Neck is an \m/ pup and wired splittable with the push/pull pot.


    Which of the following two scenarios would you prefer?
    Don't split bridge (essentially Position 2 of a 5-way blade) --> humbucking bridge w/split neck, when switch is in center position
    Or
    Make bridge splittable
    --> 59/09 split bridge pup
    --> 59/09 split with \m/ split when switch is in center position (like position 4 in a 5-way blade)

    How is a split 59/09 bridge soundwise?
    "Position" 2 or 4? If you could only have one?
     
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  2. WA Paul

    WA Paul It’s ok...I’m with Manny dog

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    I like the split bridge sound just fine, but I tend to split the neck more often. Not much help I guess!
     
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  3. JDutch

    JDutch New Member

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    Additional option: Replace the 3-position toggle with a Freeway switch, so that you can access all 6 pickup combinations without having to use a cumbersome push-pull pot (https://www.freewayswitch.com/)
     
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  4. eclecticsynergy

    eclecticsynergy PRS user since '87

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    Resistor between split and ground, as used in the DGT wiring. Good option for a vintage output bridge pickup.

    Even thought the 59/09 is a bit beefier than low wind vintage types, I think for bridge position when split it could benefit from a little extra oomph.
     
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  5. gush

    gush She said "huge bag of dibs".

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    5909 sounds good in HB or SC modes.

    I have a recording of my 5909 split. PM me your email address and I'll send it to you.
     
  6. MichaelS

    MichaelS I'm here for the free kool-aid...

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    wow that thing is wicked!
    I'd still have to choose among the single coil options though. If I get 3 single coil positions on the switch, but the combinations are:
    - N SC
    - N SC + B SC
    - B SC
    - B HB + N SC
    - B SC + N HB

    Unless I keep the push pull and add combinations with that.

    Boils down to which Position on your Custom 24 do you prefer?
    Position 2 or Position 4 of the typical PRS 5-way?
    If you had to choose one. Except Position 4 will also provide a Bridge single coil.
     
  7. gush

    gush She said "huge bag of dibs".

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    I have push pulls on Vol and tone pots on two of my guitars. Vol splits neck tone splits bridge.

    Cool option.
     
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  8. MichaelS

    MichaelS I'm here for the free kool-aid...

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    yea, I might have to go there.
     
  9. MichaelS

    MichaelS I'm here for the free kool-aid...

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    was going to ask what values, but I see the wiring in the CE already has resistors on the push/pull :D
     
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  10. JDutch

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    Don't the recent CE24s have 3-way toggles? If yes, and if you replaced the PRS 3-way toggle with a 6-way Freeway toggle, I believe the positions would be:

    Position 1: Neck HB
    Position 2: Neck HB + Bridge HB
    Position 3: Bridge HB
    Position 4: Neck SC
    Position 5: Neck SC + Bridge SC
    Position 6: Bridge SC

    You have a coil tap just on the neck now, which means, in the middle position, you can have the neck SC + bridge HB. If you left the coil tap, you could get the same combination in position 2 with the push-pull pot pulled up.

    Let me know if I'm missing something.
     
  11. MichaelS

    MichaelS I'm here for the free kool-aid...

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    I guess I could. Question is, do I need all these sounds or should I just choose between my options in original post.
    I think I'll hook it up both ways and compare. Easy enough to do.
     
  12. gush

    gush She said "huge bag of dibs".

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    These 6 way positions would be the same as a 3 way with split on tone pot for both PUs.

    Push pulls on both Vol and tone would allow combinations of one SC with one HB for a total of 8 positions.
     
  13. MichaelS

    MichaelS I'm here for the free kool-aid...

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    I think you could connect the bridge coil split to the push/pull instead of the freeway and then you can toggle between HB or SC combination with neck.
    second push/pull sounds easier.
     
  14. JDutch

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    Agreed. I find the push-pull pots difficult to access while playing--particularly without turning the knob--but that would give him all possible combinations. However, he could both install both the Freeway toggle and a push-pull pot on the volume knob, then he'd be able to access six combinations relatively easily while still being able to access the other two via the push-pull pots.
     
  15. gush

    gush She said "huge bag of dibs".

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    I will agree that pulling the dam things up is a clumsy act of weirdness.

    Somebody on here posted a pic of an Ibanez knob that had a band of rubber looking stuff to help pull it up.

    I've been contemplating putting one of these on a dowel and putting it in my drill. While it's spinning, cut a groove on the knob deep enough to put an o ring around it.
     
  16. JDutch

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    Cool idea, gush. Even without the push-pull pot, I don't see how anything that helps you grip the knob could be bad.
     

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