SE Hollowbody thread

Discussion in 'Electric Instruments' started by Frank McNerney, Nov 18, 2019.

  1. Frank McNerney

    Frank McNerney New Member

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    I don't know about the rest of you but I'm pretty jazzed up about the SE Hollowbody's Haven't seen one in a store yet but I believe there are available. If you have one, or when you get one, please post your review here (with pics as well)
    Thanks !
     
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  2. dogrocketp

    dogrocketp I drank the PRS kool aid, and it was tasty!

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    I’m in deep doo-doo with the all mahogany standard. I’m saving as we speak. A set of D’Addario half rounds and thar be some magic happening, matey. I’m glad Jack got a chance to scratch his hollowbody itch.
     
  3. Jazzedout

    Jazzedout More Guitars than Time...

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    Thomann in Europe say the should have them in 4-5 weeks.
    I really like the Charcoal one, but it is a guitar I would like to see and play in person before buying....
     
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  4. shimmilou

    shimmilou Established in 1963

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    I pre-ordered one about 15 seconds after I read about it. :)
     
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  5. Tim S

    Tim S King of the barre chord

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    I have a Standard ordered. Sweetwater gave me an ETA of Nov 20. How fast they can turn it around and ship it out? That I don’t know.
     
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    krb813 New Member

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    I preordered mine from Sweetwater as well. I chose the Fire Red Burst. I'm looking forward to getting it.
     
  7. Penfold

    Penfold New Member

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    I like the look of them too. Do you guys feel weird that they are made in China?
     
  8. Tim S

    Tim S King of the barre chord

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    Wait until you find out where their SE acoustic guitars come from. :D
     
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  9. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Get in, loser, we’re going shopping.

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    It’d be weird if they weren’t. A new PRS HB for around $1k? Where else could they be made?
     
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  10. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Get in, loser, we’re going shopping.

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    You mean the really, really, ridiculously good lookin’ ones? ;)
     
  11. drdoom8793

    drdoom8793 THAT guy at Chick-fil-A

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    To elaborate on what these guys are saying, the SE Hollowbodies are coming out the same factory that has been making the SE Acoustics.
     
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  12. Mozzi

    Mozzi https://imgur.com/user/BAMozzy

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    Not in the least bit weird at all!! Some people get far too fixated on where an instrument is made rather than whether the instrument is any good and/or worth the money. What you also have to remember about most, if not all import guitars are made to a budget to sell at a certain price point. If the 'import' guitar isn't particularly 'high end' and certainly not 'expensive' (and by expensive I am referring to their relative cost compared to their US - in the case of PRS - version), then its likely to be made to fit a price point using cheaper labour, build practices (such as veneers, multiple piece bodies etc), cheaper parts/materials etc. As Labour is a factor in costs, the quicker they can make a guitar, the cheaper it can be made too - and lets not forget all the shipping costs too that also factor in to the price. PRS also insist the import guitars are sent to them for a final inspection and set-up before being shipped to retailers - another aspect that also adds to the cost you pay and, if they are targetting a price of $1k for example, is also affecting the cost of the actual manufacture of a guitar.

    What all this means is that Indonesian, Korean and Chinese guitars are not often at the same quality - inc the build, fit and finish etc as a US made guitar for example but that doesn't mean that these builders 'couldn't' make a high end guitar if they were given the time, the materials etc to do so. They may have to make a guitar for say $400 but with all the shipping costs, the PRS staff that check and set up the SE's as well as Store profits - they are NOT going to sell a guitar for 'nothing' when they have overheads too. Point is, these import guitars are not built to the highest standard these factories could make if they had the time, the materials etc and then that determines their price, they are built to the best standard they can within a certain budget meaning that they have to limit what materials are used, how much time each guitar can have spent on it etc. Time itself can affect QC - at some point, you either have to scrap or let something go because spending time to 'fix' something can push that guitar over budget - of course it depends on the issue but you aren't going to spend several hours stripping a guitar down and re-sanding because of some little mark under the finish because that pushes the guitar over budget and also affects the production of the other instruments.

    Eastman Guitars are made in China and are of an excellent high standard. This is a company that are not making guitars to compete at the under $1k market and make the guitars they want at the highest quality they can and that determines the price. Its a very different approach - on the one hand, you have a 'max' budget with which to make a guitar so you can sell it at a certain price point and on the other, you make a guitar to the best of your abilities with the best parts you can and that determines the price. The reason SE's are made overseas is because they could not be made to that standard, to those specs and still hit the price point they are targetting. A Custom 24 SE would probably cost 2x as much (or more) if made to exactly the same standard and spec if made in the US. People are no different and not 'incompetent' overseas - its just that they are building guitars to a budget.

    As for the Hollowbody in particular, China makes sense. It has a laminated top and pressed to shape which requires different machinery - something more akin to Acoustic guitar building - although they often have solid tops but still use laminates and pressing to shape. As others have said PRS SE acoustics are made in China and have a great reputation for their quality or the price. To me, it makes sense that China is being used to make the Hollowbody as they probably have the machinery and experience in place to build it - more so than the PRS factory in Indonesia. Its still probably the same company - Cort that are building it.

    I think it makes much more sense to go and try one before dismissing it just because its made in China. All the previews I have seen sound positive and, if you want a Hollowbody PRS, you will have spend at least 4x more to get a US made version....
     
  13. Jazzedout

    Jazzedout More Guitars than Time...

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    The China part is why I am saying I really like how it looks and I would like to see it and play it in person to decide if I feel it is right for me.
    It might impress me or not.
    I have limited experience with SE guitars.
    I find it easy to buy a US made PRS online, I know it would be consistent enough for me to buy one sight unseen. The same goes for Japanese Ibanez guitars. I have the experience and knowledge with these to feel confident and buy online.
    That doesn't mean other guitars aren't good. It just means that I do not know.
    I really hope I like the SE Hollowbody. My wallet hopes I do not. :D
     
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  14. NBW

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    I’ve never played a bad SE. They are quite consistent. I bought my last one on eBay and it was as good as the one I bought at Dave’s.
     
  15. Thomas Byrne

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    Is the mahogany rim solid wood or a shaped laminate like a Gibson ES 335?
     
  16. jcolmn

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    I just saw a video on it. By the way I think PRS is flooding the youtubers with demo models.

    I am going to get one. That mahogany one looks great.
     
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  17. Victek

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    They are certainly nice looking guitars, but does a semi-hollowbody electric have any advantages over a solid body? I've had a few semi-hollow "335" style guitars over the years. They sounded a bit better than a solid body when they weren't plugged in and maybe they were a bit lighter, but that was about it. They sounded about the same as a solid body when plugged in AFAICT. I'm just wondering if it's more of a style choice.
     
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  18. justjoshin

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    Local shop just got one of the SE hollow body standards in. Going check it out later today.
     
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  19. dogrocketp

    dogrocketp I drank the PRS kool aid, and it was tasty!

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    I think it depends on too many things.I played only hollow bodies for about 20 years. Had an LP, But every time I played it the intonation made me angry, even after two fret jobs and a fingerboard planing. To my ears, nothing sounds like a full hollow body. A 335 type is not a full hollow body. Scale length, electronics, body depth, string gauge, everything matters. The new SE PRS are full hollow bodies. I’m salivating at the thought.
     
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  20. Andy80

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    I'm not exaggerating when I say my SE acoustic is on par with a Taylor 414ce that I used to own. In terms of build quality. Really impressed.
     
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