SE Customs Now Manufactured in Indonesia?

Discussion in 'Electric Instruments' started by jdag, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. John Beef

    John Beef Opaque

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2012
    Messages:
    3,357
    Likes Received:
    2,388
    I read this really cool article with Jack Higginbotham about the move to Indonesia.

    https://www.musicradar.com/news/the-story-of-prss-se-guitar-line

    “For the first time we have a facility, in Indonesia, that is PRS Guitars,” states Jack. “There is nothing else running in that new building, just PRS... And to have our own building where I know the guy who makes the necks or the bodies, I know the guy who sets the neck angles and glues them together and they’re going to do that every day - they’re not going to switch to making a Hagstrom the next day, or an ESP, or whatever. We now have a focus on our guitars that previously was never able to happen. "​
     
    frankencat, DHart, Spalty Sam and 3 others like this.
  2. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Too Funky

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2012
    Messages:
    22,625
    Likes Received:
    38,993
    Someone posted that on TGP, really interesting read.
     
    Spalty Sam likes this.
  3. Paul Reed Slut

    Paul Reed Slut New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2018
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    6
    Never owned an MII but I’m lucky enough to have this MIK in my life. Took it to luthier last week to fix a circuit, and he just assumed it was USA. Fawned all over it - said was one of the nicest looking / playing / sounding guitars he’s played. His jaw dropped when I flipped the headstock over and told him it was Korean. But he’s a Fender guy so I let him off . Admittedly mines got Suhr pups , Floyd, USA electronics/cont and it’s been PLEK’d. So it’s a ferociously good guitar!
     
    CyFan4036, dogrocketp and Spalty Sam like this.
  4. Paul Reed Slut

    Paul Reed Slut New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2018
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    6
    * I see pic never attached. It’s the guitar in my profile pic
     
    dogrocketp and Spalty Sam like this.
  5. Kashmir

    Kashmir New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2019
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    8
  6. andy474x

    andy474x Knows the Drill

    Joined:
    May 4, 2012
    Messages:
    3,844
    Likes Received:
    3,120
    I looked over all the SE’s in shop when I went for some strings, played a 245 Standard, pretty flawless as far as I could tell. Don’t know where I have to look to find these bad ones.
     
    bodia and Spalty Sam like this.
  7. Acnestes

    Acnestes "If I can do it, it's not art." - Red Green

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2019
    Messages:
    215
    Likes Received:
    195
    They exist. I have an Indonesian Custom 24, which is cosmetically gorgeous. However, when I got it, I ultimately had to file down the bridge saddles 1/16" to bring the string heights just to spec. The neck joint is not right - either the socket is too deep or the tenon of neck too shallow or it has an up-angle, so that you even with the (trem) bridge lowered as far as it could reasonably go the strings were too high. This was not immediately evident when I got it because there was a truss rod induced back bow in the neck, which made the action on the high frets appear lower than it would when properly set up
    It plays fine now, but with a playability issue like that I don't think they should have let it out the door as it was.
     
    #187 Acnestes, Jul 22, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2019
  8. TheAtomicDJ

    TheAtomicDJ New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2019
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    19
    I was unlucky enough to get 3 of the bad ones in a row:

    1) Indonesian SE CU 24 Zebrawood: Faulty pickup switch, twisted volume knob
    2) Korean SE CU 24 Rosewood: Truss Rod issues
    3) Indonesian SE CU 24 Zebrawood: Severe neck angle issues, raised fret, twisted tone knob

    All of these were 2019 models.
     
  9. dogrocketp

    dogrocketp I drank the PRS kool aid, and it was tasty!

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2013
    Messages:
    3,202
    Likes Received:
    4,114
    So we now know that the rise in labor costs was the driving wheel behind Indonesia. This is a dangerous time for PRS SE’s. We know there are some turkeys out there, and that the second shift here has new QC people to check the incoming guitars. I think Stevensville should be emailed if anyone gets an inferior guitar. It’s only a question of time before the ship gets righted. Paul and Jack do not want us getting less than excellent.
     
    CyFan4036 likes this.
  10. Fireroadeddy

    Fireroadeddy Left Coast Logic

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2012
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    97
    I find the article by Jack H. quite interesting. Reason being he continues to bring up the Paul’s guitar, and setting a date. However as of this post the guitar I was told would be here in May has now been put out till August. Is this due to quality issues?
     
    CyFan4036 likes this.
  11. shimmilou

    shimmilou Established in 1963

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2018
    Messages:
    1,868
    Likes Received:
    2,820
    Several of us have got our SE Paul’s, excellent at that. There are plenty of them in stock at various retailers, the earliest ones were spoken for and were gone as soon as they arrived. So far there have been very few reports of quality issues, so more likely a supply/demand thing going on.
     
    Spalty Sam, bodia and Mozzi like this.
  12. Fireroadeddy

    Fireroadeddy Left Coast Logic

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2012
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    97
    It looks like PRS have a new video on YouTube with a tour of this factory. I also do not want to seem overly negative in my previous post. I really am looking foreword to getting a SE Paul’s guitar based on the reviews.
     
    shimmilou and bodia like this.
  13. Mozzi

    Mozzi https://imgur.com/user/BAMozzy/posts

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2018
    Messages:
    2,007
    Likes Received:
    3,631


    May explain why the Birds weren't as centred as the could of been - still a very interesting video...
     
    Fireroadeddy likes this.
  14. LTigh

    LTigh New Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2014
    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    104
    Imma still gonna hold off until they work out the kinks on the other side of the learning curve, like with any shift in operations.

    Still, looks promising in the future.
     
    CyFan4036 likes this.
  15. Fireroadeddy

    Fireroadeddy Left Coast Logic

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2012
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    97
    News from Sweetwater my SE Paul’s guitar should be here Wednesday the 31st
     
  16. CyFan4036

    CyFan4036 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2018
    Messages:
    292
    Likes Received:
    236
    I look forward to hearing about it. I'm a wait and see kind of guy but I'm interested in getting one to add to my pallet of tones.
     
    Fireroadeddy likes this.
  17. Mbell75

    Mbell75 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2018
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    4
    It matters WHO makes them. WMIC was making the SE line in Korea and they are known for top notch work. They also make Schecter, Chapman and a few others. Cort Indonesia can be very hit or miss, as any Squier, Epiphone, Ibanez or Jackson owner can tell you. So this is a step down in quality IMO. Have to see how they turn out I guess.
     
    CyFan4036 likes this.
  18. Mozzi

    Mozzi https://imgur.com/user/BAMozzy/posts

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2018
    Messages:
    2,007
    Likes Received:
    3,631
    Chapman are also made in Indonesia and I believe a few others were moving builds out of Korea! If you had watched the recent video PRS had put out, they have their own area where only PRS are made. The team do not work on making guitars for anyone other than PRS so they are not making Squires or Ibanez guitars - just PRS.

    US staff have been over there teaching them exactly what they need to know on how to build a PRS SE guitar. There are many many more happy people than the odd one or two that have anything to complain about and the only complaints I have seen here have been incredibly superficial minor - nothing that has affected the playability, the function or the sound and you would have to look very very closely to see the issue that people have complained about.

    To say its a step down is unfair. There were occasional issues with the Korean built guitars and I bet a lot of 'issues' are not issues to less picky customers - those that aren' going over the guitar with a microscope but just plugging them in and playing. As I said the majority (if not all) of the issues that I hear about are purely minor cosmetic issues that have absolutely no impact on the function, the playability and the tone of these instruments. It may take a few months to iron out any kinks as the Indonesian team get up to speed as to what is expected and what is unacceptable but it could be a positive move for PRS in the long run as the team are fully focussed on making PRS guitars and only PRS guitars!
     
    shimmilou and CyFan4036 like this.
  19. CyFan4036

    CyFan4036 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2018
    Messages:
    292
    Likes Received:
    236
    I agree that this will be a good move for PRS in the long run. QC should go through the roof for an import guitar since they only have one line with one set of standards to build...after they’re dialed in, of course.
     
    Mozzi likes this.
  20. shimmilou

    shimmilou Established in 1963

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2018
    Messages:
    1,868
    Likes Received:
    2,820
    While I do agree with you about the Squiers, and some of the others, as Mozzi pointed out, the Indonesia PRS factory are not making other brands guitars, and the comment about a “step down in quality” is completely unfounded and has no basis in fact as it pertains to PRS. I have had 2 S2s (US made) with wiring problems, nothing that I couldn’t fix with minimal effort, but the point being that every manufacturer, no matter how high their quality standards, will have some defects, it is just a fact of life. It seems apparent to me that PRS have very, very few defective guitars, likely much better than any other guitar brand that is manufactured in mass quantities.
     
    bodia and pauloqs like this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice