Really? I like my SE Soapbar 2 Maple with Lollar mini humbuckers much better than my S2 Vela. Looks better, sounds better plays equally well. I like the shape and arm relief on the Soapy better than the angular carve of the Vela. That's just me, though.Agreed. I would rather have a used S2 every day of the week and twice on Sunday.