Push-push on a DGT

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ocharlad

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Hello from France, with a wonderfull new PRS DGT. This guitar has a lot of sweet tones, and I'm very happy with it, but on stage, I would prefer a push-push for splitting, because it's difficult for me to pull quickly the knob.... Maybe I'm a fat finger boy !!!! Anybody here have already change the push-pull for a push push without changing the guitar tones ? Or maybe, there'is a tip for pulling easyly the knob... It's sliding under the fingers....
 
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I have trouble with the pull-push knob too, which is why I prefer the 5 way slider switch; however, CRGTRs has modded several PRSes with push-push switches, and I'm betting he'll respond shortly.
 
I have put push-push on 4 of my prs and love it. I too have issue with push-pull on guitars. I first modded a SE to see if I would like it and quickly modded my SC signature, SC trem and 95 cu 24. I plan to get all of my guitars one day. I first thought that I would have an issue with bumping the knob on accident and activating the coil tap. but I have not had this issue. Tone was not affected.

I think you will like it lot.
 
I've got a few gits w/ push-push pots, and I really like them. But they are not 'perfect' either. The knob has to be attached with enough clearance underneath to 'push & release', and tight enough to stay there. Then sometimes it's easy to forget which setting you're in and have to push it a few times to get where you want. However, it's really nice to not have to 'pull' also...

I got tired of fidgeting with my DGT's push-pulls, spent too much time & energy trying to make the lampshade's more grippy, and finally just swapped them for some knurled barrel knobs. Got used to the new look after a day or so and now don't even think about the 'push-pull' action. It just works.

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Which brand of push/push are you using? most of the ones I've seen have been kind of flimsy looking.
 
My DGT Std has had a push-push pot in it from day-one (really, from the day the original owner installed it) and I love it. Though it peeves me when someone new picks it up and nearly pulls the knob off expecting a push-pull. I now warn "em while I'm handing the guitar over.
 
Out of curiosity, how many of you change from split to humbucker mid-song while performing? I really ask this out of curiosity...not trying to question the desire for a push-push configuration in the first place. For me, I can't think of any times where I'd want to change configurations mid-song, so I'm just wondering what sorts of situations you guys find calls for it.
 
aristotle said:
Out of curiosity, how many of you change from split to humbucker mid-song while performing? I really ask this out of curiosity... For me, I can't think of any times where I'd want to change configurations mid-song, so I'm just wondering what sorts of situations you guys find calls for it.
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Except for occasions when I'm doing something really "heavy rock" and staying on the bridge position, I'm changing mid-song all the time.

In the Latin/Indie Rock band, I'm doing more textures and lead work. The lead singer/guitarist handles the majority of the "meat" guitar parts that has an unchanging tone for the most part, so if the song we're doing is more of a disco/funk vibe, it's up to me to create the "traditional" Strat tone (which position 9/2 of the rotary knob does for me). Jump back to the bridge, or forward to the neck humbucker selections for leads and then back to "single coil" tones for rhythm.

I think it depends a lot on what material you're playing and who you are in the band. Studio guys almost never have to worry about it much anymore these days 'cause there aren't too many ensemble gigs where stuff isn't being re-recorded later.
 
aristotle said:
Out of curiosity, how many of you change from split to humbucker mid-song while performing? I really ask this out of curiosity...not trying to question the desire for a push-push configuration in the first place. For me, I can't think of any times where I'd want to change configurations mid-song, so I'm just wondering what sorts of situations you guys find calls for it.
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I switch configurations on the fly sometimes when tracking a part, if I'm still experimenting with the part and the tone while recording in cycle mode. That way I don't lose the flow of the part. It really helps me nail a part to just keep recording.

Everyone's workflow is a little different.
 
aristotle said:
Out of curiosity, how many of you change from split to humbucker mid-song while performing?
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I don't. Generally, it's a single coil song or it's not. The neck pup gets dialed back for the clean rhythm stuff and the bridge is higher for leads...or both for a transition or something different. Really, it depends on what amp I'm using because the Boogie doesn't like when I back down on the tone control of the guitar. The SuperD prefers it and responds perfectly to both volume and tone adjustments regardless of one or both coils. I can be seen adjusting tone constantly.
 
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aristotle said:
Out of curiosity, how many of you change from split to humbucker mid-song while performing? I really ask this out of curiosity...not trying to question the desire for a push-push configuration in the first place. For me, I can't think of any times where I'd want to change configurations mid-song, so I'm just wondering what sorts of situations you guys find calls for it.
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Well, If I didn't have to change the splitting coil in stage, I wouldn't ask you if you have a solution.....
 
ocharlad said:
Well, If I didn't have to change the splitting coil in stage, I wouldn't ask you if you have a solution.....
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He wasn't being contrary or combative, just asking an honest question. There's a big difference between splitting coils during a show or during a song. It's all good!
 
Boogie said:
He wasn't being contrary or combative, just asking an honest question. There's a big difference between splitting coils during a show or during a song. It's all good!
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And me, I wasn't contrary or combative at all, sorry I'm french and I don't write english as good as I would do.... But why am I asking sorry, me !!! Yes, I'm splitting coil during every song where I must do solo, and nuances, so in every song in fact. For exemple, with the split neck PU, I have a big crunch that I can module with the volume knob, for a part with rythm overdrive I get the neck PU non split, and for the Lead I go on the Bridge PU, and after the lead, it's again little crunch etc.... I try to play only with the valve amp to get sweet tones and I don't want to use 250 stomp boxes, I don't like that... Here's the reason why I simply would have a tip to use quickly split coiling from my PRS !!!!
 
First, ocharlad, welcome to the Forum! I didn't notice that this was your first post. And Boogie is right... I didn't mean to imply that you didn't have good reasons for wanting a more convenient way to split the pickups. I was just curious under what circumstances you (and others) found that you needed to split in the middle of a song. What you describe makes sense to me. For me, it's probably because of the material that I play live that it hasn't occurred to me to split, for example, before a solo. It looks like Wardog and Swede had a few suggestions, so hopefully it works out for you.
 
Push-Push is the only way to go in my opinion. I've done it to pretty much every gtr I own. It just feels more natural to me.
 
aristotle said:
Out of curiosity, how many of you change from split to humbucker mid-song while performing? I really ask this out of curiosity...not trying to question the desire for a push-push configuration in the first place. For me, I can't think of any times where I'd want to change configurations mid-song, so I'm just wondering what sorts of situations you guys find calls for it.
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I do it all the time. Sometimes I want a split tone when playing clean and then I go full bucker for crunchy parts of solos. I also go split for some more twangy crunch parts. It really depends on the song or my mood!
 
I pre set knobs on my DGT.Neckpickup on 5 most of the time and use only bridge pickup knob for cleaning up in bridge position and middle position.Splitcoil option I only use for bridge and middle,very rarely neck position.If splitting mid- song that would only be bridge position
 
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