PRS: Why is the price point so high to get a hard case included with the guitar?

[Draconomics]

Paul doesn‘t pay for his guitars. (please dont try to tell me he does) Paul can have someone fix, or replace something on his guitars if they get damaged, for free. and I’m sure someone looks after Paul’s guitars wherever he takes them more-so then they would mine or yours.
PS- I find it hard to believe anyone would take a hollow or semi-hollow body guitar out anywhere, and not use a hard case.

I mean...yeah, you're not wrong, but I dunno...if he feels like his soft bags are good enough for him, they're good enough for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For what it's worth, I've gigged with hollows in soft cases. Never a problem in my sixteen years of guitar wankness.

 

[Draconomics]

Correct, they have no need to charge retail for a case when I've already bought a $3000 guitar. Ok fanboy?

The way some of you stick up for the stupid crap PRS does is something else. So I guess you're implying that Paul is just too stupid to figure out how to do what every other guitar maker can. Priceless!

So...to cite an earlier post by thee, if you think PRS does shady stuff with their pricing, then please by all means feel free to provide specific accusations and evidence. Otherwise, I'm filing this in the "cool story bro" folder. I have to repeat what I said before, if I have the money to afford a $3K guitar, what's it to me to plop another few benjamins on a case I actually want? I'll use the car analogy again: what you are basically saying is if you buy an expensive car, you somehow feel entitled to the manufacturer or dealer to pay for your insurance. Lol wut?

Also...it appears, and I may be mistaken, but I think I might just detect some, as the French say, "hurt in butt" attitude towards PRS "fanboys"....yet you are on a PRS forum basically run and pervaded by PRS "fanboys". Exactly what kind of reaction are you expecting?

I don't get it. Oh well, as the French also say "que sera". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[helmi]

I mean...yeah, you're not wrong, but I dunno...if he feels like his soft bags are good enough for him, they're good enough for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For what it's worth, I've gigged with hollows in soft cases. Never a problem in my sixteen years of guitar wankness.

Dont get me wrong. I’m a PRS guy. I’ve owned 18 core PRS’s in the past. I’m not just throwing a ***** to upset the natives, but I feel theres alot of things PRS does anymore that i disagree with, and i’d be willing to bet i’m not alone in that opinion. but, I dont own the company, and nobody at the company cares what us small people think anymore anyway.

 

[Prs Mods too]

So...to cite an earlier post by thee, if you think PRS does shady stuff with their pricing, then please by all means feel free to provide specific accusations and evidence. Otherwise, I'm filing this in the "cool story bro" folder. I have to repeat what I said before, if I have the money to afford a $3K guitar, what's it to me to plop another few benjamins on a case I actually want? I'll use the car analogy again: what you are basically saying is if you buy an expensive car, you somehow feel entitled to the manufacturer or dealer to pay for your insurance. Lol wut?

Also...it appears, and I may be mistaken, but I think I might just detect some, as the French say, "hurt in butt" attitude towards PRS "fanboys"....yet you are on a PRS forum basically run and pervaded by PRS "fanboys". Exactly what kind of reaction are you expecting?

I don't get it. Oh well, as the French also say "que sera". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I have butt hurt attitude towards any brand fanboys. I just don't see the sense in sticking up for a company when they do stupid stuff that's all.

As for the remarks about the ease of shelling out an additional 300 for a case when I'm able to afford a 3 or 4000 dollar guitar, sure I could, but I shouldn't have to. I don't have to with other brands. I bought my first PRS over 20 years ago for 2000. Guess what was included for that price.

I'm pretty sick of this discussion so I probably won't be back.

 

[Draconomics]

Dont get me wrong. I’m a PRS guy. I’ve owned 18 core PRS’s in the past. I’m not just throwing a ***** to upset the natives, but I feel theres alot of things PRS does anymore that i disagree with, and i’d be willing to bet i’m not alone in that opinion. but, I dont own the company, and nobody at the company cares what us small people think anymore anyway.

I'm sure PRS has done some dumb stuff over the years. I have my gripes too (i.e. Dragon 1s being discoed), and they'd better do right by the people making SE's in Indonesia. I'd like to think out of the litany of corporate outfits out there, they're one of the better ones. I mean...in the sphere of guitar companies, compared to something like Gibson, I guess anyone is better.

 

[DreamTheaterRules]

I have butt hurt attitude towards any brand fanboys. I just don't see the sense in sticking up for a company when they do stupid stuff that's all.

I am not a fanboy and don’t appreciate you calling me one. When someone takes the name calling, insulting tone you’ve had in your posts, you can’t expect people to react to you with a serious response. Heck I’m proud of myself for not name calling back. LOL.

But your posts are silly. Last time I checked, we don’t get to tell ANYONE how much they should charge for their product. To show you how ridiculous your comment about me is, I’ve said more than once here, that my last new PRS core model was purchased about 10 years ago when a really nice new Custom 24 I purchased for $2560 new, (tax and all, with HSC ) and that the $1000 or so price increase over the last 10 years is why I haven’t bought at least two more. So fanboy is kind of a stupid thing to say. I drew my mark where I was comfortable at about $3K or so for a core, and when they went past that I stopped buying them.

But again, since you don’t seem to understand this, Paul has said publicly that certain guitars come with bags to keep them at a price point. Rather than call them “scummy” or imply that they are ripping you off OR aren’t smart enough to figure out how to include a case like other guitar makers (huge LOL on that one. Really, you’ve outdone yourself!) you might just want to evaluate the product and price, decide of it’s worth purchasing or not for YOU, and if you really need a case negotiate your purchase that way. And then purchase it OR NOT.

Trust me, no amount of name calling, or insults is going to change anything. And accepting it or moving on is not being a fanboy. It’s doing exactly what I just said. I’ve decided where my bar is for what I’ll spend and I accept that the models I really want are more than that. I can spend what they cost, but choose not too. But there is nothing for me to gain by bitching about the price in the forum, and insulting someone who pays that price, or PRS, is just in poor taste.

 

[Draconomics]

I have butt hurt attitude towards any brand fanboys. I just don't see the sense in sticking up for a company when they do stupid stuff that's all.

As for the remarks about the ease of shelling out an additional 300 for a case when I'm able to afford a 3 or 4000 dollar guitar, sure I could, but I shouldn't have to. I don't have to with other brands. I bought my first PRS over 20 years ago for 2000. Guess what was included for that price.

I'm pretty sick of this discussion so I probably won't be back.

That's fine, I mean I'm not a white knight for companies or anything, but look...you make points about things PRS does that you dont like, I'm asking for clarification and explanation. What's the big problem? I don't care about somebody throwing eggs at a company, I care about whether or not there is a legitimate reason to. Not all companies are evil, and they do things we think are stupid but will make sense to them logically, but because we are not privy to all the context and information we are nothing more than vociferous spectators.

Concerning the case thing...again, with all due respect, I sense entitlement. You are not entitled to free stuff just because you spend alot of money on something. Maybe it was that way 20 years ago, I mean...I thought Rollin' by Limp Bizkit was the greatest song ever 20 years ago, so times change. If the free case (which is not actually free) is such a dealbreaker, and other brands will do it for you, then I dunno....go buy them instead. I don't know what else to tell you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Black Plaid]

Well now I don't feel so bad about my Star Trek rant.

What did I miss? Was baby Yoda involved? It feels like this thread is in that ballpark.

 

[Black Plaid]

I bought my first PRS over 20 years ago for 2000. Guess what was included for that price.

I don't think you are making the point you think you are.

 

[Lewguitar]

This thread should get the ax.

Nothing is being accomplished.

 

[alantig]

This thread should get the ax.

Nothing is being accomplished.

I was going to give the thread the axe, but the axe didn't come with a case, so...

 

[Dirty_Boogie]

I was going to give the thread the axe, but the axe didn't come with a case, so...

Case closed.

 

[Lewguitar]

Case closed.

Let's hope...

 

[Moondog Wily]

I was going to give the thread the axe, but the axe didn't come with a case, so...

Glad to see my favorite funny forum fellow is back on it! Been missing your humor!! Maybe I am just reading the wrong threads, whatever the case is, bring the laughs brother!!! Have you found a new job?

 

[JasonE]

I didn't read the whole thread but I read enough to see where it was going.

I am in the case camp. I think it is greed to sell a guitar at these prices and not include the case. I have bought cases for guitars that I have purchased that didn't have them. I bought a Fender case for an American Special that I have. The gig bags they come with suck. I have a Suhr Classic Pro that I got lucky with. When the shop ordered it the order got held up and when they called to ask why they were told because they were waiting on gig bags. The guitar was ready to ship but they didn't have a gig bag to put it in. The shop owner told them to put it in a case and ship it. They did and I got it that way at no extra cost.

I throw my guitars in my car with all of my other gear and I really need them to be in a solid case. Sometimes things shift around and it could be disaster if the guitars were in gig bags. I know a good number of guys that have had their guitars damaged by carting them around in gig bags, even good ones.

IMHO, at the price points of these new guitars, especially the bolt on models, they should have cases. I work hard for my stuff and I want it protected. I store most of my guitars in the cases so they are protected. I only have a few out and they are hanging on the wall so they are pretty safe.

 

[Draconomics]

This thread should get the ax.

Nothing is being accomplished.

I tried explaining the initial thread problem to my cats. 7/9 agreed, there was feasible enough reasoning to not include hard cases. One wanted tuna, and the other took a crap on my pedalboard. Now that we have thier opinions, I think we can put this thread to bed now.

Case closed.

Got em.

You know, at least the topic is obscure and family friendly. Whenever theres a debate of soft vs. hard, its usually not about guitar cases.

 

[shinksma]

PS- I find it hard to believe anyone would take a hollow or semi-hollow body guitar out anywhere, and not use a hard case.

Well be prepared to fall down flat, because I do that all the time. My SCHBII lives in a gig bag. I've used the same gig bag, or similar ones, to ferry around my P245SH, my SH Vela, etc. Hardcases are great for protection, but if you are the only one handling your gear then they are generally overkill.

I also take acoustic guitars and mandolins to gigs in gig bags. The horror!

 

[JMintzer]

Correct, they have no need to charge retail for a case when I've already bought a $3000 guitar. Ok fanboy?

The way some of you stick up for the stupid crap PRS does is something else. So I guess you're implying that Paul is just too stupid to figure out how to do what every other guitar maker can. Priceless!

Settle down, Beavis...

 

[Ovibos]

I’ve said this in other threads, and it bears repeating:

PRS cases have gotten VERY expensive to make and ship.

The wood (birch I think) has gotten 2-3x more expensive.

The cases themselves are quite heavy. PRS has to pay to ship them from the case maker to Stevensville.

All of this adds up and you’d better believe it’s a factor. Everyone complains about prices going up; they would go up even more with hard cases of the quality and weight PRS uses. Could they go to lighter, cheaper ones? Sure, but then people would complain about that…

 

[toothace]