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Discussion in 'PTC - PRS Tech Center' started by Shawn@PRS, Dec 9, 2012.
The work is reversible if all the parts are saved.
Where can I buy the new tuners? I need them for my old CE22
You'll have to send the guitar to the PRS Tech Center.
Thanks! Any idea what they charge?
If we (I) send Phase I Winged Tuners to you at the PTC will you convert the inside parts to phase 2 or 3 parts? It seems like that is what the video above shows. If so how much would that cost? My Winged Tuners are starting to slip and I would prefer a drop in replacement - really don't want to drill holes.
The conversion is to phase II, I believe. You should go to http://prsguitars.com/ptc/ and submit the form for an estimate.
That link lists the price for the PTC conversion.
I had a tuning issue with my PRS SE Custom 22 so replaced the tuners with Grovers. I documented the process here:
Welcome to the forum!
Great video, and kudos for showing how to also clean the fretboard with lemon oil.
If I want to upgrade a 1997 CU24 winged tuner to phase III's what conversions will my luthier have to make to the guitar. Same with adding a 3 way toggle from a five way rotary.
Not sure about the tuners (because, damn, why??!! ) but you'll have to enlarge the opening slightly for a Switchcraft right angle 3-way. I suggest doing it slowly by hand. It doesn't take much.
I find the winged tuners terribly cumbersome.
I get it. And in a way, they are. That's part of the allure, to me. It's one of the PRS innovations that I appreciate the most. But I also have Phase IIIs on my DGT, which are much more refined. Like I said, I get it.
I wouldn't say "terribly" cumbersome but they are more difficult than the phase 2's. I still like them and wouldn't change them. They now feel "vintage" and fun.
I find them a bit fiddly myself. My big thing was that they couldn't hold a really large low E. I can't remember the largest they can hold, but a .060 wasn't happening. Way back when I changed my wings, there weren't many options for retro fit. I got some sperzels which work fine. At least I didn't have to bore the headstock holes out. I'd like to switch back to the wings or converted tuners but the grommets from the sperzels have left indentations on the front of the headstock from being too tight.
So unless I want to have some refin work done, it would look a little goofy. Don't really want to throw a bunch of money at the guitar since it functions properly, but I'd much rather have PRS tuners on it.
Don't think you can go to III's. If the D & G strings have the shared mounting screw, PRS can mod them to phase II.
Love me some 'vintage' winged tuners....
I've got a 2000 Custom 24 and also find the winged tuners a bit cumbersome to work with. It appears that you can swap them out with Phase 2's which I am thinking about doing. But wowsa, those 2's are expensive. While gawking at that I saw some winged Phase 1 tuners for sale for $2-300. Is this right? Can I sell my original tuners for roughly the same amount as the Phase 2 ones cost? Seems like a no-brainer.