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Yeah and where they choose to not use tracks with guitar parts. Yesterday in the live stream the guitar parts in the track (very compressed) were so loud, my own part was drowned out...
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Yeah and where they choose to not use tracks with guitar parts. Yesterday in the live stream the guitar parts in the track (very compressed) were so loud, my own part was drowned out...
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I still struggle with the tracks issue. Probably because we have one Leader who plays very full and loud piano parts and relies heavily on tracks and a very produced sound, and another who uses no tracks and has a very open sound.
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Very recognizable. Tracks can be a blessing or a cherry on top, however last couple of years we have come to rely on them more and more in our attemp to copy the (over produced) songs of Bethel and the likes. I assume that is a world wide trend. Simply because we can with all the added possibilities with dante and mainstage.
Sadly.
We play with a click with vocal ques and sometimes a "pad" but no tracks.. thankfully. We use Avions and in ear monitors, no actual stage volume.
If my guitar parts were drowned out by a track, I'd be having words with the soundguy. That ain't right...!
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It is a matter of balancing guitar tracks in the total of the mix. It was not on purpose, but noticeable.
Sound had a different issue to deal with: there was latency on my guitar, so on the livestream I am seriously off beat. Consistently ;-) throughout the service. Something with plugins I guess.
Ahhh my bad, I thought you meant as on purpose lol
How does the latency come about? Are you running a wireless pack? Livestream can be a monster to master in terms of a good mix!
There have been many times where I was forced (so to say) to come up with my own parts. A lot of worship music is BIG sounding and even though are sometimes 3 guitars playing there is so much reverb that it's hard to pick out individual parts. I figured as long as I come up with something that serves the song, why not? I've had no complaints from anyone.
Can't tell you how many times where I sat down to work on a new church song and after the first listen I'm thinking "what am I going to do?" But I just keep playing to the song over and over and different things start coming to me and sometimes by accident! It's not a unique approach as I'm sure most poeple go about it this way. That is, unless you're a genius who immediatly knows what to do. I'm NOT in that category!
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Agreed. And I have seen it often. The guitar player is obviously laying down some tasty bits and might as well be home with his feet propped up. It’s been better lately.
Nice.
If you’re open to helpful suggestions… Sounds like the board had your signal clipping pretty hard. And if you can bring your delay and reverb levels down just a touch, those tasty riffs will be more clear. You have very good fretboard knowledge and made tasteful note choices and fills. Nice Strat.
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No idea how that latency came about. Sound guy was scratching his head as well. Possibly had to with an old session or plugins. I know I am not an off-beat guy, so it is kind of funny to hear
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If it’s not related to wireless units, the sound guy might need to clear the old session scene and start from scratch. Often, when multiple volunteers are handling a complicated digital board, unexpected and unintended stuff happens, and gets saved. Then it’s hiding there in the background and making everybody scratch their heads and hesitate digging in to find it for fear of making it worse.No idea how that latency came about. Sound guy was scratching his head as well. Possibly had to with an old session or plugins. I know I am not an off-beat guy, so it is kind of funny to hear
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Funny, texted with him this morning and is EXACTLY what he said. He had to use an old session.
We had some dante issues with the monitoring as well yesterday, so there might be all kinds of funky things contributing to the situation.
@Mike J. @Gtrbldr @deepender @GuitarJammin
I made you guys this video of how I do Oh You Bring at church:
Hopefully you guys enjoy it and maybe you'll share how you would do things differently or even a video showing what you do in a live band context!
I made you guys this video of how I do Oh You Bring at church:
Hopefully you guys enjoy it and maybe you'll share how you would do things differently or even a video showing what you do in a live band context!
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Great playing. Thank you for sharing this.
In a small setting I would likely approach this song about the same thing you do here, however I would have to actively steer clear of the pianoman, since the part you play is rather "wide". On the electric in full band most of my parts would look a little like your solo. Otherwise I would be part of the wall of sound we have going on, without contributing to the dynamics or structure of the song. Contained, by lack of a better word.
Very nice indeed! Our other guitar player who was on acoustic played something similar to what you're doing here. I kinda came up with my own thing to play over what he played.
Thanks for sharing!
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I use my old DGT every so often. Here's some random clips including a pretty wild interlude I wrote to get to a new key. It's a real fun band and we all go way back on the live music scene.
We don't use tracks so what you hear it what was played.
We don't use tracks so what you hear it what was played.
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Old news now but I play in church 2x+ times a month and the PRS ( one of them) comes with at least 25% of the time. a lot of acoustic stuff, but any clean electric or "dirty" ( use that term loosely) sounds are on the PRS. GrantedI play in a Lutheran church so it's all a little on the "low key" side.
Good, easy, simple and fun stuff to play! Love it!!! Kinda reminds me of early Isreal Houghton mixed with 80's workout stuff
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Nice
Thanks for this, aways value your opinions, criticism or feedback (and anyone else's). If I remember correctly I was using my middle sized pedalboard that Sunday but I didn't have the UAFX Ruby so chances are I was using a modified Fender Blues Deluxe amp and if I remember correctly, our sound guy was asking me to turn up my boost pedal because he was having issues with something. I remember hearing that 3rd song and telling the worship leader "That's not supposed to sound like that". It was too late though, of course lol
