PRS guitar without a truss rod

Markcarl

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I saw a video of Tim Pierce playing a PRS guitar without a truss rod:
He plays the guitar and says a little bit about it at minute 13:00. It looks like a Paul’s guitar.

I saw another video a few weeks earlier with Tom Bukovac playing and talking about the same guitar:

Does anyone know more about this guitar? Is it a prototype or production guitar?
 
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I have two PRS without truss rods , both Steve Fisher 's an Angelus and Tonare Grand carbon fibre beams make gauge and tuning changes a breeze. You can drop it down to cello tuning and back up and no problems
 
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I have an electric without a truss rod. It is a Paul’s Guitar with a graphite rod from 2016 I believe. The sustain is insane. Does anyone have more info about those new ones? Wonder if they will be production guitars.
 
I have two PRS without truss rods , both Steve Fisher 's an Angelus and Tonare Grand carbon fibre beams make gauge and tuning changes a breeze. You can drop it down to cello tuning and back up and no problems
My PS Tonare Grand and my previous PRS US Artist acoustic both had carbon fibre strength rods. I loved the stability, and I honestly think not having a chunk of vibrating metal along the complete length of the neck helps with the tone.
 
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Some folks just don't embrace change .. I talked with a chap last week, a fellow septegenarian .. and very old school " I can't image ever needing more than a D-18 " I chuckled and said " In a way I envy you ...." .. but I'd rather be me....

Many of the the Jazz cats suffer from the same narrow scope (albiet great chops) very traditional equipment wise.
Oddly there are some small luthiers that make some WILD jazz instruments .. primarily for the Euro market
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Many of the the Jazz cats suffer from the same narrow scope (albiet great chops) very traditional equipment wise.
In all candor, a great many jazz players also suffer from a narrow scope in their playing. We've been hearing the same modal stuff 'playing over the changes' for what seems like a zillion years. Most of the jazz played is indistinguishable from one player to the other. The real innovators stand out because they've moved into other directions.

That's why it can seem boring and is one reason the jazz audience has dwindled. Guys like Miles Davis never stood still, and his records are still listened to because they're interesting. Same with Pat Metheney, John Scofield, etc.

The last thing on Earth I want to listen to is one more guy playing modes over the changes. Colorless blah stuff, and I don't care how difficult it is to do well. There was once a point to be made, there isn't any more in that stuff.

Then too - I'm absolutely as guilty of this as anyone else- we hear it in blues, in rock, and other genres. We play what we've learned to play, stylistically, and it's hard to break out of established patterns.

Even in film music, how many people seem to be aping John Williams (and/or others)? I get the whole 'influenced by' thing, but you've got a freaking orchestra at your disposal. Lots and lots of colors and possibilities. Yet they go wanting, in terms of originality.

I'm ranting, am I not? 😂

Yeah, I really don't mind. I'll accept the criticism.
 
I have a Steve Fischer Angelus and I love it.

I got it in a trade deal and it's beat a little but is sounds great and plays really well, intonation is spot on everywhere........oh and....no truss rod.

One thing I intend to do when I retire is either order a new one or find one that's dead mint.
 
In all candor, a great many jazz players also suffer from a narrow scope in their playing. We've been hearing the same modal stuff 'playing over the changes' for what seems like a zillion years. Most of the jazz played is indistinguishable from one player to the other. The real innovators stand out because they've moved into other directions.

That's why it can seem boring and is one reason the jazz audience has dwindled. Guys like Miles Davis never stood still, and his records are still listened to because they're interesting. Same with Pat Metheney, John Scofield, etc.

The last thing on Earth I want to listen to is one more guy playing modes over the changes. Colorless blah stuff, and I don't care how difficult it is to do well. There was once a point to be made, there isn't any more in that stuff.

Then too - I'm absolutely as guilty of this as anyone else- we hear it in blues, in rock, and other genres. We play what we've learned to play, stylistically, and it's hard to break out of established patterns.

Even in film music, how many people seem to be aping John Williams (and/or others)? I get the whole 'influenced by' thing, but you've got a freaking orchestra at your disposal. Lots and lots of colors and possibilities. Yet they go wanting, in terms of originality.

I'm ranting, am I not? 😂

Yeah, I really don't mind. I'll accept the criticism.
Pat Metheny regularly makes the point that he is NOT a jazz guitarist. He is adamant about that. It could be that my lack of exposure to jazz is to blame for so many jazz guitarists sounding identical to me, but I smiled at the "playing over the changes" line. I think every genre has a handful of innovators and giant herds of followers who simply replicate what's already been done.
 
A PRS without a truss-rod… Knowing Paul’s attention to detail, it will be done right— I’m in!

Never enjoyed adjusting the darn thing anyway. Such a guitar is right up my ally. Sadly I’ll never be able to afford one, but I love the idea!
 
Judging from that video in the original post, sustain is crazy
That alone would make for a lot of discussion

Phillip McKnight spoke about it on his "Know Your Gear"
He said Paul wouldn't build it without a good reason however He would not buy one
He likes being able to adjust the neck and is set in his ways
 
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