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Just a little different sound. I've always wanted a double cut with SC thickness and can't get that outside PS. Access isn't much of an issue for me but I feel a little more "mobile" live with a double cut.

Love the faded blue jean finish!

My most recent PS is a double cut with SC thickness. I've been wanting one like that for a pretty long time. It is a little different sound. With single-cutaway guitars in general, I think that extra connection of the body with the neck leads to a more prominent low-midrange in the overall sound – which a lot of people love as it's the characteristic "oomph" that, for example, attracts them to the Les Paul thing.

For me, though, I've come to realize that single-cutaway sound, while useful at times and something I'll always want in my tool kit, is generally a bit overbearing for what I want to hear in the music I usually play. At the same time, PRS-recipe guitars have always tended to sound a little too midrangey to me, with not enough at either end of the frequency spectrum. Craig from CR Guitars and I have talked about this at length and it's what led to the specs for this one. (the 58/15 pickups are key, btw!) It was chambered fairly substantially at Paul Miles' suggestion. I don't know if it would be anyone else's cuppa tea, but for me it's everything I've been chasing for oh, about 35 years now.

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Love the faded blue jean finish!

My most recent PS is a double cut with SC thickness. I've been wanting one like that for a pretty long time. It is a little different sound. With single-cutaway guitars in general, I think that extra connection of the body with the neck leads to a more prominent low-midrange in the overall sound – which a lot of people love as it's the characteristic "oomph" that, for example, attracts them to the Les Paul thing.

For me, though, I've come to realize that single-cutaway sound, while useful at times and something I'll always want in my tool kit, is generally a bit overbearing for what I want to hear in the music I usually play. At the same time, PRS-recipe guitars have always tended to sound a little too midrangey to me, with not enough at either end of the frequency spectrum. Craig from CR Guitars and I have talked about this at length and it's what led to the specs for this one. (the 58/15 pickups are key, btw!) It was chambered fairly substantially at Paul Miles' suggestion. I don't know if it would be anyone else's cuppa tea, but for me it's everything I've been chasing for oh, about 35 years now.

PRS_PS_5644.jpg
That a great one!

I read somewhere recently about the 513 neck joint adding some of that lower mid sound back into the mix. Not sure if that's accurate or not, or where I saw that - interesting none the less. Not being a trem guy, I think it would be interesting to hear a 513 stoptail, SC thickness.
 
I read somewhere recently about the 513 neck joint adding some of that lower mid sound back into the mix. Not sure if that's accurate or not, or where I saw that - interesting none the less. Not being a trem guy, I think it would be interesting to hear a 513 stoptail, SC thickness.
That does sound interesting.
 
Love the faded blue jean finish!

My most recent PS is a double cut with SC thickness. I've been wanting one like that for a pretty long time. It is a little different sound. With single-cutaway guitars in general, I think that extra connection of the body with the neck leads to a more prominent low-midrange in the overall sound – which a lot of people love as it's the characteristic "oomph" that, for example, attracts them to the Les Paul thing.

For me, though, I've come to realize that single-cutaway sound, while useful at times and something I'll always want in my tool kit, is generally a bit overbearing for what I want to hear in the music I usually play. At the same time, PRS-recipe guitars have always tended to sound a little too midrangey to me, with not enough at either end of the frequency spectrum. Craig from CR Guitars and I have talked about this at length and it's what led to the specs for this one. (the 58/15 pickups are key, btw!) It was chambered fairly substantially at Paul Miles' suggestion. I don't know if it would be anyone else's cuppa tea, but for me it's everything I've been chasing for oh, about 35 years now.

PRS_PS_5644.jpg

Hi Kingsley, any recordings of this one yet? I've been thinking about doing something similar in a chambered format although not sc thickness. What do you think about an ebony or blackwood fretboard with this recipe?
 
That does sound interesting.
If I'd heard that prior to going to the vault, I might have picked the 2 Paul's brains a bit about it. I've never really played a 513, so not sure how I'd feel about it.

What I do know is that I feel like I got exactly what I was after with mine. Really love how it sounds. I am still curious how that heel might affect the tone. Someone with more $ than me should build one and let me borrow it! :D
 
If I'd heard that prior to going to the vault, I might have picked the 2 Paul's brains a bit about it. I've never really played a 513, so not sure how I'd feel about it.
I baby sat a Braz 513 for a couple weeks and it was a really nice guitar, but I honestly didn't notice anything special about the neck joint. I wasn't looking for it. I was more interested in the pickup switching options. It played well and sounded good. I didn't claim it because there was too much equipment on the top and I didn't like the look of the pickups.

I might have a better appreciation for it now.
 
Hi Kingsley, any recordings of this one yet? I've been thinking about doing something similar in a chambered format although not sc thickness. What do you think about an ebony or blackwood fretboard with this recipe?

Just this video demo. (this is the long version, wherein I go into my whole rap about why having two volume controls matters)

For me, chambered + regular McCarty thickness + ebony/blackwood + 58/15s might sound a little hard-edged, not quite full enough. Even as is, it's right on the edge of being overly bright.

 
That is an extremely beautiful guitar KingsleyD. I especially like the wide flames on that top and the birds are extremely cool..
 
Just this video demo. (this is the long version, wherein I go into my whole rap about why having two volume controls matters)

For me, chambered + regular McCarty thickness + ebony/blackwood + 58/15s might sound a little hard-edged, not quite full enough. Even as is, it's right on the edge of being overly bright.



Thanks, I also have also steered away from singlecuts over the past couple years, for the same reasons you cite. I am also narrowing down my specs for my ideal guitar and I think fretboard material and chambering are the last couple factors I am considering.

Great vid, thanks for sharing.
 
I baby sat a Braz 513 for a couple weeks and it was a really nice guitar, but I honestly didn't notice anything special about the neck joint. I wasn't looking for it. I was more interested in the pickup switching options. It played well and sounded good. I didn't claim it because there was too much equipment on the top and I didn't like the look of the pickups.

I might have a better appreciation for it now.
Oh, it would need the DGT controls and probably some 5X/something pickups:)

Just this video demo. (this is the long version, wherein I go into my whole rap about why having two volume controls matters)

For me, chambered + regular McCarty thickness + ebony/blackwood + 58/15s might sound a little hard-edged, not quite full enough. Even as is, it's right on the edge of being overly bright.

It's a wonderful sounding guitar, though you make everything sound great. Totally agree on the dual volumes. It's essential!
 
Totally agree on the dual volumes. It's essential!
It is indeed! Despite the fact that all LPs historically have dual volumes, I never had such a dramatic difference in overall tone affected as it was during the first time I picked up my DGT. The pickups are so well balanced that even a slight volume change on one of them in the middle position changes the tone significantly. Very, very cool. I miss it when I pick up my Gibby LP and the volume pots make no difference till it's on 3 or so. The tone pot, on the contrary, instantly kills all treble once you touch it... Oh, well.
 
It is indeed! Despite the fact that all LPs historically have dual volumes, I never had such a dramatic difference in overall tone affected as it was during the first time I picked up my DGT. The pickups are so well balanced that even a slight volume change on one of them in the middle position changes the tone significantly. Very, very cool. I miss it when I pick up my Gibby LP and the volume pots make no difference till it's on 3 or so. The tone pot, on the contrary, instantly kills all treble once you touch it... Oh, well.
Yeah, I honestly don't remember using the volumes as much when I was a LP guy. I'll have to play more with the tone knob, I don't think I have that issue.
 
I miss it when I pick up my Gibby LP and the volume pots make no difference till it's on 3 or so. The tone pot, on the contrary, instantly kills all treble once you touch it... Oh, well.

Well there's a HUGE difference between any modern Les Paul and a vintage one with PAFs and the wiring/electronics they used back then.

PRS gets that -- the DGTs work a lot more like a vintage Gibson than any modern factory-original Gibson. It would be nice if Gibson got that. But they don't. Even the large-money Historic guitars don't get that part right.
 
Just this video demo. (this is the long version, wherein I go into my whole rap about why having two volume controls matters)

Word. There are times I love the one volume thing, but just as often I miss having the second volume control. I won't claim to be any kind of specialist at mixing the two pups, but I like having the control, and I do use it.
 
Kingsleyd is the volume control for the bridge the closest volume knob to your hand? That seems backwards.
 
Kingsleyd is the volume control for the bridge the closest volume knob to your hand? That seems backwards.

Yeah, that's a David Grissom thing. He claims he's on the bridge pickup 90% of the time so that's the volume control he wants closest to hand. I've played DGTs enough by now that I'm used to it, although my preference would be to switch the two volume controls and have the neck volume closest as I lean on the neck pickup much more often than DG does. Unfortunately the wires inside the guitar are cut to lengths such that I'd have to do some rewiring (or pay someone to do some rewiring) in order to make that happen.
 
Yeah, that's a David Grissom thing. He claims he's on the bridge pickup 90% of the time so that's the volume control he wants closest to hand. I've played DGTs enough by now that I'm used to it, although my preference would be to switch the two volume controls and have the neck volume closest as I lean on the neck pickup much more often than DG does. Unfortunately the wires inside the guitar are cut to lengths such that I'd have to do some rewiring (or pay someone to do some rewiring) in order to make that happen.
It's interesting. I have my PS wired to normal DGT wiring. I considered wiring it with the neck volume closest to my hand since I ride that volume more than the bridge pickup. I just decided to have them wire it normal, I guess for lack of addressing it. I figured I could always switch it. So far, I don't have any issues. I am kinda used to having the bridge pickup volume closest to my hand since I have a McCarty wired with 2 volumes, no tone that way...except on my SC which is wired as PRS normally does it. I guess I'm flexible - as long as I remember which guitar I'm playing:D
 
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