I'm the opposite - Pattern, but Wide Fat is nice!
Poll: What is your favorite PRS neck carve?
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I'm the opposite - Pattern, but Wide Fat is nice!
MykeWright
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Wide Fat, although a bit wider and even fatter would be better (possibly). Always liked the Santana carve but it felt more like a boatcarve/soft V to me.
Woundtight
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No DGT love?
I like'em all, but a DGT just feels like home.
I like'em all, but a DGT just feels like home.
Egads
One, Two, THIRTEEN!
My first was a wide/thin and made me fall in love with PRS. It's the only w/t I've had. I'm fine with everything else, though.
Does anyone know how the "513" carve fits in with the Pattern series? My 513 is an '08 and the specs just said 513 carve.
Does anyone know how the "513" carve fits in with the Pattern series? My 513 is an '08 and the specs just said 513 carve.
John Beef
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Ugh, I hit Wide thin on accident, I meant to hit Wide fat. It's that kind of morning.
From the PRS website:
PATTERN NECK SHAPES - CURRENT
Neck shapes have always been a high priority for PRS and a hallmark of our quality. A guitar should feel comfortable, like "home," as soon as you pick it up, and the neck is paramount to that connection. These new neck shapes reflect modern tooling and programming that allows us to even more preciously shape and consistently reproduce our necks.
Perfected after years of prototyping, the new "Pattern" neck is an updated Wide Fat PRS neck style based on Paul’s pre-factory design. These necks were found on the instruments built for Carlos Santana, Peter Frampton and Howard Leese from the late 70’s to the mid 80’s.
The new "Pattern Regular" neck shape is similar to the traditional PRS regular neck found on guitars made in the late 80’s at PRS’s former Virginia Avenue location.
The "Pattern Thin" neck is an updated version of PRS’s traditional Wide Thin neck.
FORMER NECK SHAPES
The Regular (sometimes called Standard) neck is a round neck shape that is 1/32 narrower and not quite as thick front to back as our Wide Fat neck.
The Wide Fat neck has the same nut width as the Wide Thin neck, but it has a deeper profile. Because of its strength and longer "heel", the Wide Fat neck produces warm tones with lots of sustain.
The Wide Thin neck has a thinner profile front to back than the Wide Fat. It is a favorite of fast players and lead guitar players.
WIDTH OF THE FRETBOARD AT THE NUT:
* Pattern, Wide Fat - 1 11/16"
* Pattern Thin, Wide Thin - 1 11/16"
* Pattern Regular, Regular - 1 21/32"
WIDTH AT THE BODY
* Pattern, Wide Fat - 2 1/4"
* Pattern Thin, Wide Thin - 2 1/4"
* Pattern Regular, Regular - 2 1/4"
NECK DEPTH AT THE NUT
* Pattern, Wide Fat - 27/32"
* Pattern Thin, Wide Thin - 25/32"
* Pattern Regular, Regular - 27/32"
Essentially there appears to be only 3 choices for neck carve.
1. Pattern (Wide Fat)
2. Pattern Thin (Wide Thin)
3. Pattern Regular (Regular)
I can find no unique dimensions for "Santana" or "DGT" on "513" other than the Santana is 11 1/2" radius instead of 10" and has a scale length of 24 1/2 " instead of 25". Scale length of the 513 is 24 1/4 ". Does anyone have hard data on the other specs for the Santana or 513 neck carve?
Does anyone know the specs on the DGT neck carve? Or are they just one of the standard three (non 12 string) choices?
Whatever the unique dimensions of the Santana, DGT and 513, and lacking any other data, it would seem that:
A vote for Pattern is also a vote for Wide Fat and vice versa. (28 as of this post)
A vote for Pattern Thin is also a vote for Wide Thin and vice versa. (16 as of this post)
A vote for Pattern Regular is also a vote for Regular and vice versa. (10 as of this post)
PATTERN NECK SHAPES - CURRENT
Neck shapes have always been a high priority for PRS and a hallmark of our quality. A guitar should feel comfortable, like "home," as soon as you pick it up, and the neck is paramount to that connection. These new neck shapes reflect modern tooling and programming that allows us to even more preciously shape and consistently reproduce our necks.
Perfected after years of prototyping, the new "Pattern" neck is an updated Wide Fat PRS neck style based on Paul’s pre-factory design. These necks were found on the instruments built for Carlos Santana, Peter Frampton and Howard Leese from the late 70’s to the mid 80’s.
The new "Pattern Regular" neck shape is similar to the traditional PRS regular neck found on guitars made in the late 80’s at PRS’s former Virginia Avenue location.
The "Pattern Thin" neck is an updated version of PRS’s traditional Wide Thin neck.
FORMER NECK SHAPES
The Regular (sometimes called Standard) neck is a round neck shape that is 1/32 narrower and not quite as thick front to back as our Wide Fat neck.
The Wide Fat neck has the same nut width as the Wide Thin neck, but it has a deeper profile. Because of its strength and longer "heel", the Wide Fat neck produces warm tones with lots of sustain.
The Wide Thin neck has a thinner profile front to back than the Wide Fat. It is a favorite of fast players and lead guitar players.
WIDTH OF THE FRETBOARD AT THE NUT:
* Pattern, Wide Fat - 1 11/16"
* Pattern Thin, Wide Thin - 1 11/16"
* Pattern Regular, Regular - 1 21/32"
WIDTH AT THE BODY
* Pattern, Wide Fat - 2 1/4"
* Pattern Thin, Wide Thin - 2 1/4"
* Pattern Regular, Regular - 2 1/4"
NECK DEPTH AT THE NUT
* Pattern, Wide Fat - 27/32"
* Pattern Thin, Wide Thin - 25/32"
* Pattern Regular, Regular - 27/32"
Essentially there appears to be only 3 choices for neck carve.
1. Pattern (Wide Fat)
2. Pattern Thin (Wide Thin)
3. Pattern Regular (Regular)
I can find no unique dimensions for "Santana" or "DGT" on "513" other than the Santana is 11 1/2" radius instead of 10" and has a scale length of 24 1/2 " instead of 25". Scale length of the 513 is 24 1/4 ". Does anyone have hard data on the other specs for the Santana or 513 neck carve?
Does anyone know the specs on the DGT neck carve? Or are they just one of the standard three (non 12 string) choices?
Whatever the unique dimensions of the Santana, DGT and 513, and lacking any other data, it would seem that:
A vote for Pattern is also a vote for Wide Fat and vice versa. (28 as of this post)
A vote for Pattern Thin is also a vote for Wide Thin and vice versa. (16 as of this post)
A vote for Pattern Regular is also a vote for Regular and vice versa. (10 as of this post)
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Yeah, I was reading that... I edited my post to include the website description of the current carves.
LJD
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The depth and width of the wide fat and pattern may be the same, but in regards to the shoulder carve... no way. I hope this poll/thread makes it's way back to the folks who design the necks. I hate the pattern carve compared to the wide fat, or wide thin as well. There, I said it.
ArtG
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Satin finished WF feels just right in my hands
izzyizborn
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I'll say W/F, only because it's the CU22 that I've been closest to over the years, but I enjoy the DGT, Pattern Regular, and Pattern thin just the same.
Pattern Thin. Used to be Wide-Thin, but I think the Pattern Thin's actually a little comfier...feels like there is just a hair more beef to the neck. Feels a lot like a Gibson 60s profile, which I like. Only Wide-Fat I've gotten along with was a McRosie, perhaps because of the unfinished rosewood neck.
David Grantham
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I like both Wide Fat and Pattern. Here's why I like Pattern. ( somebody pass the lotion ) lol. Ok name this chord?
The JA15 also has incredible upper fret access!
The JA15 also has incredible upper fret access!
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altoidman
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Easy, wide fat.
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