Pete's comments about rock

[Tucson Thump]

At least guitar-based rock

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/pete-townshend-rock-isnt-dead/

interesting

 

[Clashcityrocker]

It's just hard to figure out what this generation is into other than phones and video games. I just think that digital modeling will keep it alive. It will be cheaper to get a great tone than before so it will keep a definite cult following.

 

[merciful-evans]

curious.

I have no idea whether guitar based rock is dead as pop culture.

I don't however, agree that the shredders have exhausted the guitar's potential. Despite the way it looks sometimes, it never was about virtuosity. Nor should it be.

 

[Clashcityrocker]

I think it's more about great songs with guitars as a main instrument. Ywngie is a great player but not massively popular.

 

[Alnus Rubra]

Well having recently been to the Leeds/Reading Festival, it may not be guitar based, in the sense of Whitesnake/Def Leppard(giving away my generation). However, a large number of the bands were guitar orientated.

In the UK, its almost a return to the 70’s, with some of the style and music composition.

And these guys are clearly still entertaining a festival crowd, albeit in a slightly tongue in cheek fashion.

My son is heavily into Twenty One Pilots and I don’t even know how to categorise their music. Tyler Joseph played Bass most of their set and some Ukelele!

 

[László]

These things seem to be cyclical. Synth-pop supposedly killed guitar off in the 80s, and then along came Grunge, and after that, Punk (version II). And now we’re back to synth pop, only with hip-hop beats underneath, instead of classic rock beats.

What this means for the future, of course, I have no idea - but neither does anyone else, because no one’s got a fully functioning crystal ball.

Most pop music trends are transitory.

I listen to a lot of the music coming out of LA and Nashville, and it seems to me to be formulaic confection; take a well-trodden style, plug in the act du jour, run that for a little while, then plug the next act into the formula.

The airwaves are full of vocals by people trying to sound exactly like someone else - viz, all the “I’m a tired but wise little girl” voices, or the “official country male, get in my truck” voice.

I’m not saying this is bad. That’s what sells, and people need to make a living.

But the “making this to sell” intention isn’t always the same thing as the “making art” intention. Though sometimes art sells, too.

One thing I always respected about folks like Tom Petty was the consistency in the attitude that “This is what I have to say, and this is how I say it.” And people could either deal with it, or not. For the most part, they dealt with it.

There’s a certain timelessness to art, as opposed to the transitory nature of formula.

Then too, sometimes people not trying to make art actually do make art, and people trying to make art actually make garbage.

Now hand me an accordion, if you will...

 

[sergiodeblanc]

It's just hard to figure out what this generation is into other than phones and video games..

Probably the same stuff as always like partying, relationships, experiences, and flailing around in the dark trying to figure out where you fit in. Life is always the same story, but with different backdrops and props.

I was at a 50th birthday party at a club with a bar above it, and half way through we all looked outside to see a huge line of 20-something kids waiting to get in the club.

We were able to see the show in the basement and some of us wondered aloud about what these kids were doing and what they were into... I said: “We’re not supposed to know, or to get it. It’s their time.”

Hopefully kids discover guitar again. It has been, and continues to be such a wonderful part of my life. I want that joy for everyone.

 

[László]

I want that joy for everyone.

“But think how many people have gone deaf from the electric guitar. No one goes deaf from the accordion.”

“When people hear an accordion, they wish they were deaf.”

 

[Alnus Rubra]

Man goes to his doctor. He receives the bad news that he only has six months to live.

Man asks his doctor:

“Is there anything I could do to live longer?”

Doctor tells the man that he could move in with an accordionist.

The man asks:

“Will this make me live longer?!”

Doctor replies:

“No, but it will feel like it”

 

[Tucson Thump]

From the Sci-Fi lad in the room:

I believe that in the future guitarists and other popular musicians and singers will wear sensors to relay feeds, first pre-recorded but eventually real time, to paying customers using proprietary VR so that Jan and Joe everybody can sense what it is like to be playing on stage with other musicians and in front of throngs of fans. A "real" experience for the purchase ... maybe even Bill Murray will walk out on the stage to sing with you ( I personally would not buy the "Johnny Depp" option).

Studies already show that while a person's mind can acknowledge that some experience isn't real (fake documentaries) the mind still incorporates that information into memories mixed with real memories. "Deep Fake" has even gone beyond that, showing manufactured audio/visual information that is for all intents and purposes indistinguishable from reality.

 

[Tucson Thump]

“But think how many people have gone deaf from the electric guitar. No one goes deaf from the accordion.”

“When people hear an accordion, they wish they were deaf.”

True that, and accordions are big with the ladies .... in Russia.

 

[Alnus Rubra]

From the Sci-Fi lad in the room:

I believe that in the future guitarists and other popular musicians and singers will wear sensors to relay feeds, first pre-recorded but eventually real time, to paying customers using proprietary VR so that Jan and Joe everybody can sense what it is like to be playing on stage with other musicians and in front of throngs of fans. A "real" experience for the purchase ... maybe even Bill Murray will walk out on the stage to sing with you ( I personally would not buy the "Johnny Depp" option).

Studies already show that while a person's mind can acknowledge that some experience isn't real (fake documentaries) the mind still incorporates that information into memories mixed with real memories. "Deep Fake" has even gone beyond that, showing manufactured audio/visual information that is for all intents and purposes indistinguishable from reality.

Les has his cryo capsule booked already!

 

[László]

True that, and accordions are big with the ladies .... in Russia.

Can you book me on a tour as soon as possible?

 

[CandidPicker]

It's just hard to figure out what this generation is into other than phones and video games. I just think that digital modeling will keep it alive. It will be cheaper to get a great tone than before so it will keep a definite cult following.

 

[Alnus Rubra]

Can you book me on a tour as soon as possible?

There are no words!

 

[merciful-evans]

“But think how many people have gone deaf from the electric guitar. No one goes deaf from the accordion.”

“When people hear an accordion, they wish they were deaf.”

Also accordionists are proud of the fact that accordions are indestructible.
They love nothing more than people testing this out.

 

[merciful-evans]

True that, and accordions are big with the ladies .... in Russia.

But dont they get their frontage caught in the bellows?

 

[Alnus Rubra]

But dont they get their frontage caught in the bellows?

Only in “Carry On” films.

 

[Tucson Thump]

But dont they get their frontage caught in the bellows?

That's what's big with the guys ..... in Russia

 

[László]

But dont they get their frontage caught in the bellows?

Perhaps that’s not a bad thing?