P22 pulled my pups. What does this mean?

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  1. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    The set of NYXL strings lasted longer than I thought they would, but time to change them out. So a new set of Cobalts to try!
    Prep...

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    Forgot to pull the pups last time. Still don't know if they're 5310, or 5708 but the neck pup is marked P22 BASS 3610-G

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    But when I pulled the bridge pup, there was a surprise!

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    What the heck? NAMM WHS 810?
    A NAMM guitar? Or something else? What does W/O 502007 mean?

    It is to wonder...
     
  2. justmund

    justmund Plank Spanker

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    W/O = Work Order.

    Can you check the resistance of your pickups?
     
  3. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    I was thinking "work order" as well. Is that normal?

    I only have an analog meter, but it shows about 7.1 on the neck and just under 7.0 on the bridge. This is done with a 1 foot cable with tone and volume controls all the way up.
     
  4. vchizzle

    vchizzle Zomb!e Nine, DFZ

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    For a second I freaked out and forgot this was a P22 when I saw the tail piece sitting there! Then I remembered the piezo harness holding it in place. :biggrin:
     
  5. Raven17

    Raven17 Joey Tatts

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    If you email customer service with your serial number can't they tell you the build specs?
     
  6. John Mann

    John Mann olslowhand
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    Use a MODCAT decoder with the info after ITEM...
     
  7. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Did that John. Just states P22 as the pup.
     
  8. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Ha!
    I guess it does look a little dangerous.
     
  9. justmund

    justmund Plank Spanker

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    My guess is 53/10s, which are low 7k from memory and 57/08s are high 7s/low 8s
     
  10. justmund

    justmund Plank Spanker

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    Actually I just lied to you. I just measured my 53/10 DC resistance and got 8.43k for the bridge and 7.87k for the neck. Note these are uncovered 53/10s (from a P22) that aren't in a guitar. I remember getting extremely close results when I tested some covered 53/10s I also had out of a guitar.

    My guess is your figures are a little wrong, are you sure the piezo wasn't "blended" when you took your readings?
     
  11. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Thank you for that!
    I had the switch all the way down which is mag only.
    Anybody have 5708 and 5310 that can take reading in guitar? I bet that changes things from pups out of the guitar.
     
  12. justmund

    justmund Plank Spanker

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    Hmm I've got covered 53/10s in a guitar, used a 1/2 foot cable and got 7.5k and 8.08k.

    I might pull them and test them out of the guitar...
     
  13. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Nicely done and thank you!
    I think I'll take this to the office and use a digital meter. Maybe my analog meter is a POS. Who knows?
     
  14. Mixstar

    Mixstar Just too tired . . .

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    You can check your meter yourself if you wish with a good known resistor or two say a 4.7K and a 10K. Be aware that the tolerance ring on resistors is generally gold which is ±5%. If you want to be really accurate find some resistors with brown or red tolerance rings which are ±1% and ±2% respectively. You should be able to see 1% or 2% on an analog meter if you have the range set correctly, the most accurate reading for an analog meter is a pointer position between 2/3 and full scale.
     
  15. RVA

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    Here are my measurements:

    2012 P22 with uncovered 53/10s (in the guitar)
    Treble - 8.92
    Bass - 8.27


    2012 Experience CU24 - covered (in the guitar)
    Treble - 9.3
    Bass - 8.25

    Uncovered P22 53/10 (out of the guitar)
    Treble - 8.95
    Bass - 8.11

    Covered (out of the guitar)
    Treble - 8.85
    Bass - 8.17
     
  16. justmund

    justmund Plank Spanker

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    Interesting readings RVA, found this:

    53/10 specs (Now discontinued, no longer available)
    Scuffed nickel covers with nickel screws.
    Compatible with toggle switch with push/pull tone pot
    Part # Description Resistance Magnet
    ACC-XXXX 53/10 treble 8.98K Alnico
    ACC-XXXX 53/10 Bass 8.42K Alnico

    and also from another post:

    "One thing that I've been surprised by is the variation in 57/08s. I've measured the DC resistance of three different pairs now.

    A non-etched pair came in as follows:
    Bass: 7.6 Treble: 8.45

    The etched pair (57/08TM) in the 2013 Hollowbody II were:
    Bass: 7.98 Treble: 8.76

    But the etched pair I've just bought (57/08 without the TM) are really surprising:
    Bass: 8.79 Treble: 8.81"
     
  17. justmund

    justmund Plank Spanker

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    Another consecutive post...

    Found some old readings I took of some other 53/10s I had:

    Neck - 8.15k
    Bridge - 8.76k

    So looks like you pretty much can't tell what they are from the resistance. Sorry, kinda useless experiment, although slightly interesting.
     
  18. RVA

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    My uncovered 57/08 readings:

    2014 P24 with 57/08 (in the guitar)
    Treble - 9.13
    Bass - 8.39

    More confusion!
     
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  19. Mixstar

    Mixstar Just too tired . . .

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    Hmm, if the values are varying covered to uncovered I would guess that the cover is affecting the coil(s) impedance. I would have been surprised if you could tell which one was which by pure resistance measurements alone unless the values were wildly different.
     
  20. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Wow!
    Extremely interesting! Thanks for all this testing and info gents. I sent the cavity pics to PTC just for fun, and I'll see if I can rustle up a digital meter here at the office today!
     

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