deathworlder
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No Kahler, no care...
Only across a smoky room.However, this time Gibson copied PRS rather than the opposite![]()
Actually Gibson made the Victory from 1981 to 1986. It predates PRS by a bit. This new one is a reintroduction to the model.However, this time Gibson copied PRS rather than the opposite![]()
I'm seriously considering the Iguana green one. But, I'm picky about the top quality. Too used to PRS tops.Gibson hit some design home runs with a few of its solid body guitars - the Les Paul, LP Jr. and SG come to mind, as does the Explorer - but there have been some very odd ducks, too.
I give them props for pushing the design envelope. Sometimes they pushed it in less-than-stellar directions, but that happens when you’re swinging for the fences instead of playing it safe.
Life is too short to not own a weird looking guitar at least once!
I was drawn to that one, too! Looks to me like Eriza Verde a little.I'm seriously considering the Iguana green one. But, I'm picky about the top quality. Too used to PRS tops.
S2s generally have the same look/carve as their Core counterparts. It's only the Vela that is "offset".Looks like an S2 or a Knaggs. Can't stand the offset carve. Nothing against S2 lovers. Just not my style.
Some folks here might be too young to remember back as far as us...I’m the first one to call Gibson out on their BS but this thread is a bit much. As pointed out above, the original Victory came out a little before PRS was ever a thing. The body looks pretty normal by today’s standards and wouldn’t get a second thought if it were from another brand like Ibanez or ESP.
From the beginning it was actually a pretty reasonable response to the design flaws of the SG. The horn is extended and strap button relocated to fix balance and positioning issues. The headstock was originally similar to the Firebird and does away with the more extreme angle at the nut to help with tuning stability. The reissues use the explorer peg head shape. You know, the one from 1958.
Coming into it only knowing which came first, it sure does look like the S2 Thinline is the copycat. If it is upsetting you that much, it probably says more about you than Gibson.
P.S.
I seriously dislike Gibson and resent you making me defend them![]()
I was 3 when the Victory first came out. Google is the real hero here.Some folks here might be too young to remember back as far as us...
I’ve still got one in my parts drawer if you need it.No Kahler, no care...
It was a joke about Gibson/Kahler/80s... I think that Huey Lewis dude used a Gibson w/ Kahler.I’ve still got one in my parts drawer if you need it.
Moog preamp enters the chat.At least it doesn’t have robo tuners. I still don’t know how that idea made it out of development and into production.
I still have a Strings and Things Memphis Custom that has a Kahler on it. I like the guitar; they were all the rage back in the mid-late 80s. The Kahler works, and stays in tune. It’s a huge block of metal in there.It was a joke about Gibson/Kahler/80s... I think that Huey Lewis dude used a Gibson w/ Kahler.
I did have a Kahler endorsement in the early 90s...sort of. I was using their Steeler tremolos though.