NGD: Wood Library Modern Eagle V Yellow Tiger Smoked Black hardware

OP, that's a gorgeous guitar in one of my favorite PRS finishes! Enjoy it!

The DGT Has A Bone Nut Now As Well. PRS Had Perfection In The Original Nut, They Need To Stop Messing With What Works And Leave It Be. The Hardware Sounds Cool...Understated And Classy It Seems Which I Find Appealing. I Look Forward To Hearing Your Results On The Nut Change And Thanks For The Feedback. Again, Congrats On A beautiful Guitar! :)
We've both commented on this before, but all of my PRS' except one have bone nuts, including the DGT. I have zero problem with them. They stay in tune, and the guitars sound great.

Not saying they wouldn't sound great with a different nut, but they'd probably sound different.

I like the tone of the guitars as-is, and wouldn't mess with them even if I had to put a little graphite in the slots. But heck, I've never even had to do that. I've had two of them (both PS models) for a decade with no issues.
 
OP, that's a gorgeous guitar in one of my favorite PRS finishes! Enjoy it!


We've both commented on this before, but all of my PRS' except one have bone nuts, including the DGT. I have zero problem with them. They stay in tune, and the guitars sound great.

Not saying they wouldn't sound great with a different nut, but they'd probably sound different.

I like the tone of the guitars as-is, and wouldn't mess with them even if I had to put a little graphite in the slots. But heck, I've never even had to do that. I've had two of them (both PS models) for a decade with no issues.
Consider Yourself Lucky...Now Go Buy A Lottery Ticket. ;)

Far Too Many Of Us Have Had Issues With The Bone Nuts And Those Issues Were Resolved Instantly With The Original Nut Replacing The Bone Nut. To My Ears, The Tone Difference Was A Non Factor But The Tuning Factor Was A Big Plus So I Am Sticking With What Works.
 
Consider Yourself Lucky...Now Go Buy A Lottery Ticket. ;)
Hey I haven't had a real job since 1991, yet people have thrown money at me to do what I love doing! That's close enough to winning the lottery for me. I have to leave some of the good luck for other people to enjoy. ;)
Far Too Many Of Us Have Had Issues With The Bone Nuts And Those Issues Were Resolved Instantly With The Original Nut Replacing The Bone Nut.
I've only seen a couple of posts where there were complaints about the bone nuts, but I'm only omniscient when the great gods of Tone have to take a bathroom break. The important thing is you found a solution that you've been successful with!
So I Am Sticking With What Works.
Gotta run with that.

**** A few articles that are consistent with my thinking about the effect of nut materials on guitar tone. Note that I believe these choices are very personal to each player, and since nuts are an easy swap, there's nothing to lose trying them out to see what's best for you, since everyone's tastes are different. Do I think the nut material affects tone? Certainly, and I'm not alone:




And finally, an article on nuts by Dirk Wacker (whose name is impossibly apropos):

 
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I had ordered a yellow tiger MEV in March. Waited til July and it never had any inclination of when it would come in. Just “maybe next month”. I bailed for a 594 in yellow tiger and I love it but maaaaaan the MEV still does something to me.
 
OP, that's a gorgeous guitar in one of my favorite PRS finishes! Enjoy it!


We've both commented on this before, but all of my PRS' except one have bone nuts, including the DGT. I have zero problem with them. They stay in tune, and the guitars sound great.

Not saying they wouldn't sound great with a different nut, but they'd probably sound different.

I like the tone of the guitars as-is, and wouldn't mess with them even if I had to put a little graphite in the slots. But heck, I've never even had to do that. I've had two of them (both PS models) for a decade with no issues.

My local luthier/repair tech *only* installs bone nuts (though I’m sure he’d install and slot a new PRS nut if I asked him to and gave him one to do it with). He’s actually replacing the FUBAR’ed stock nut on my SE Custom 24 with a bone nut as we speak, as the guitar refused to stay in tune with the stock one. The nut he installed on my Warmoth holds tune perfectly. Point being, everyone has their favorite kind, but IMO, it’s less about the material and more about how well it is cut and/or how worn it is.

And oh yeah, that guitar is gorgeous.
 
Hey I haven't had a real job since 1991, yet people have thrown money at me to do what I love doing! That's close enough to winning the lottery for me. I have to leave some of the good luck for other people to enjoy. ;)

I've only seen a couple of posts where there were complaints about the bone nuts, but I'm only omniscient when the great gods of Tone have to take a bathroom break. The important thing is you found a solution that you've been successful with!

Gotta run with that.

**** A few articles that are consistent with my thinking about the effect of nut materials on guitar tone. Note that I believe these choices are very personal to each player, and since nuts are an easy swap, there's nothing to lose trying them out to see what's best for you, since everyone's tastes are different. Do I think the nut material affects tone? Certainly, and I'm not alone:




And finally, an article on nuts by Dirk Wacker (whose name is impossibly apropos):

So Are We Now Talking About Acoustic Guitars Or Electric Guitars?

In That Case, No Need For Pickup Changes In Your Electric Guitar As The Nut Is So Vitally Important To Your Overall Electric Guitar Tone. All I Know Is This...I Am So Glad After All These Years That Paul Reed Smith Himself Finally Stumbled On Bone Nuts And Decided To Finally Introduce Them On His Guitars All These Years Later. I Only Wish His Tone Chasing, Guitar Advancing And Improving Of The Instrument Would Have Discovered Such A Thing Sooner. 🤣

I Guess All Those Older PRS Non Bone Nut Guitars Are Inferior But They At Least Stay In Tune. Sounds Legit...It Worked For Gibson All These Years So Why Not PRS? ;) While I Can Admit That Nut Material Can Effect The Tone I Would Also Suggest That So Can String Gauge, Cables, String Material, Pick Thickness, Pick Material, Amp Settings, Speaker Cables Used, Speaker Cabinets, Speakers, Cabinet Grill Cloth Material, Cabinet On Wheels Or Not On Wheels, Slanted Vs Straight And So On And So On And So On.

Finally, Just Because "Only A Few Posts" Have Mentioned An Issue With Bone Nuts And Tuning Issues Doesn't Mean Those Are The Only Issues Of Occurrence Of Such A Thing.

Like I Said Before, The Only Way To Know How Various Nut Materials Will Sound Is To Replace The Nut On Your Guitars And Listen To Them With All Things Being Identical. There Is No Other Way To Know As Each Guitar Is Unique And What We Hear And Like Fluctuates. All That Aside, I Keep Things As Simple As I Can And Start With Tuning Stability. If That Isn't Rock Solid You Have Nothing. No Matter How Great That Nut Material May Sound It Will Sound That Way Out Of Tune.

Bro, Tune Your Guitar Man...I Know I Will But I Am Loving How Sweet That Nut Sounds...And When I Bend I Get That Upper Harmonic Ping That Just Sounds So Awesome. 🤣

Like What You Like, Use What Works For You...After All It Is Your Guitar To Enjoy As You Wish.
 
Got myself a new PRS MEV this week, wood library in yellow tiger with smoked black hardware, ziricote fingerboard and paua old school birds. I really like the smoked black hardware and black pickup rings, I think it gives it a bit of an aggressive and meaner look. The paua birds look great against the chocolate brown ziricote board.

I'm settling in with it and after some tweaking I have the pickups volume balanced to where I like them and I really like the 2 TCI pickups in humbucker mode and the 2nd position bridge humbucker/middle, that's a really convincing Strat in-between tone. I'm not so keen on the 3 single coil sounds on their own but they may have their uses at some point. The bridge pickup takes higher gain well, quite aggresive and focussed.

The one thing I'm not quite so happy with is the bone nut, I'm getting some pops and clicks and tuning issues as the nut is binding on the 3rd & 4th strings. I have added some nut sauce and that has helped but I think I may swap the nut out for one the regular PRS black self lubricating nuts at some point. Tuning is a bit twitchy when using the trem with the stock bone nut.

Also, string tension feels quite loose with 0.010 gauge strings so I might try .011s to stiffen things up a bit.

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So Are We Now Talking About Acoustic Guitars Or Electric Guitars?

In That Case, No Need For Pickup Changes In Your Electric Guitar As The Nut Is So Vitally Important To Your Overall Electric Guitar Tone.
See the Fender article for their take on the topic regarding electric guitars.
All I Know Is This...I Am So Glad After All These Years That Paul Reed Smith Himself Finally Stumbled On Bone Nuts And Decided To Finally Introduce Them On His Guitars All These Years Later. I Only Wish His Tone Chasing, Guitar Advancing And Improving Of The Instrument Would Have Discovered Such A Thing Sooner. 🤣
He gets to chase what interests him, and sell the products that result from his chase.

You get to decide whether or not to buy the guitars on offer. It's fair both ways.

All that said, the most beautiful sounding guitar I have ever owned - overall - is the Northern Lights PS20 that Black Plaid now owns, and it has the composite nut. No question in my mind that the tone is wonderful as-is.

I think the bone nuts sound different. But I wouldn't change the composite nut on that Northern Lights guitar, or on my PS 30th Anniversary CU24.

If I'm happy with the tone, it ain't broke, so I ain't fixin' it. So there are limits as to what I'd personally swap out.

;) While I Can Admit That Nut Material Can Effect The Tone I Would Also Suggest That So Can String Gauge, Cables, String Material, Pick Thickness, Pick Material, Amp Settings, Speaker Cables Used, Speaker Cabinets, Speakers, Cabinet Grill Cloth Material, Cabinet On Wheels Or Not On Wheels, Slanted Vs Straight And So On And So On And So On.
Of course! Innumerable things are involved. That's what makes breaking it all down into all the details so interesting, at least for purpose of discussions here.
Like I Said Before, The Only Way To Know How Various Nut Materials Will Sound Is To Replace The Nut On Your Guitars And Listen To Them With All Things Being Identical. There Is No Other Way To Know As Each Guitar Is Unique And What We Hear And Like Fluctuates.
While that would be a great experiment, it isn't really necessary.

For example, most of us know the difference between how a guitar with a maple top sounds vs all-mahogany. Or single coils vs humbuckers. Trems vs stop-tails.

You don't need to install single coils in your Les Paul to know that the two types of pickups sound different. You don't need to saw the neck off your CU24 and bolt on a different neck to know bolt-ons have a different type of tone vibe.

It's simply a matter of experience teaching us what to listen for.

We recognize these differences based on our experience. If you know what to listen for, lots of small differences exhibit certain similar tone characteristics. I've had a number of guitars with Brazilian Rosewood fretboards, going back to 1967. I've had a lot of guitars with IRW. Experience tells me the two woods have slightly different tone characters.

I didn't need to cut the IRW fretboard off a guitar and glue on a BRW fretboard to figure this out.

Experience informs us. It's enough.

All That Aside, I Keep Things As Simple As I Can And Start With Tuning Stability. If That Isn't Rock Solid You Have Nothing. No Matter How Great That Nut Material May Sound It Will Sound That Way Out Of Tune.
I totally agree. No question about it. I haven't had problems with the bone nuts. So it's not an issue here in Studio Craptastic.
Like What You Like, Use What Works For You...After All It Is Your Guitar To Enjoy As You Wish.
TRUE!! All of this stuff is - and should be - up to the individual player. I tried to make that clear in my previous post.
 
Got myself a new PRS MEV this week, wood library in yellow tiger with smoked black hardware, ziricote fingerboard and paua old school birds. I really like the smoked black hardware and black pickup rings, I think it gives it a bit of an aggressive and meaner look. The paua birds look great against the chocolate brown ziricote board.

I'm settling in with it and after some tweaking I have the pickups volume balanced to where I like them and I really like the 2 TCI pickups in humbucker mode and the 2nd position bridge humbucker/middle, that's a really convincing Strat in-between tone. I'm not so keen on the 3 single coil sounds on their own but they may have their uses at some point. The bridge pickup takes higher gain well, quite aggresive and focussed.

The one thing I'm not quite so happy with is the bone nut, I'm getting some pops and clicks and tuning issues as the nut is binding on the 3rd & 4th strings. I have added some nut sauce and that has helped but I think I may swap the nut out for one the regular PRS black self lubricating nuts at some point. Tuning is a bit twitchy when using the trem with the stock bone nut.

Also, string tension feels quite loose with 0.010 gauge strings so I might try .011s to stiffen things up a bit.

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I'm with ya on the nut... I did clean mine up with my diamond nut files for 10's, but I may still install a black self lubricating one myself!
 
Nuts are all about setup and proper polishing. Before you swap it out a couple of soft passes with a properly sized nut file are in order. After that polish the slots with fine sandpaper around a used piece of guitar string. Work more on the sides and slope of the nut, not the depth (if 1st fret height is good). There are lots of videos on YouTube to help you with this. I recommend Music Nomad diamond nut files, they are inexpensive and easy to use. Be mindful because they cut fast!
 
Update on the nut, I changed strings and put a little Big Bends Nut Sauce in the slots and tuning has settled down nicely, we'll see if it keeps stable but so far I'm playing with confidence in the tuning even with some fairly heavy use of the trem.

I really like the guitar more as I play it, I turned up the amp and just used the single coil settings and it really does sound good. Some nice Andy Timmons style clean tones on offer.

Weight is 8lb 2oz and it feels good.
 
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