NGD -Hollowbody Standard

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  1. Rhythmisking

    Rhythmisking New Member

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    Sooo... this is my first SE. I have two core guitars (Santana Signature and Singlecut satin artist) and an S2 (Vela), but I became really intrigued by the new SE Hollowbody. The all-mahogany laminate body seemed really cool, and unlike any other guitar I have (PRS or other), but also unlike anything else in the core line.

    It arrived on Wednesday, but I finally got a chance today to play it for a good bit. I got this one 'used' from Dave's for what seemed stupid cheap money (< $700), but it seems entirely new including the case. Here are my impressions.

    Fit and finish are perfect as far as I can see. It's gorgeous in an understated way. The fret work is super smooth, like my other PRSi. The fret edges aren't quite a 'perfect' as my others, but they aren't sharp or unfinished feeling at all. Doing fast chord melody stuff up and down the neck is effortless and smooth. Miraculous for a guitar at this price point, in my experience. The playability is excellent. Excellent.

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    The consensus on this model seems to be it is warm and woody, especially compared to the SE Hollowbody II. The guitar is warm, but I don't find it super woody, at least compared to actual large-bodied jazzboxes (which is maybe unfair). It has a clarity to it that I've come to associate with PRS guitars, but maybe with more warmth and less edge. I don't know how the 58/15S pickups compare with USA 58/15 ones because I've never played them, but these do sound quite good. They are articulate and smooth and tend towards warmth without being dark or muddy.

    What I do notice; and I don't know whether it's the pickups, the body, or both, is that the guitar seems to respond best when played...gently. It doesn't particularly like to be hit hard. Some guitars do; my other three PRSi don't mind that at all. This one tends to loose string to string definition and clarity, particularly on complex chords, when it's hit hard. It's not entirely a bad thing, and if you play with a lot of dynamics, then occasionally hitting it hard and making it 'smear' a bit and then backing off again it totally works and adds character. But you just can't bang-bang-bang on chords or it gets muddy and thick sounding.

    I should add that I play mostly very clean, jazz-type stuff.

    The guitar sounds GREAT doing single line melody. This is where the 'woodiness' shows through. The pickups also sound pretty cool with drive, but quite warm. The neck is surprisingly smooth and creamy and the bridge is certainly edgier and meaner -but I wouldn't call it edgy or mean by any means except compared to the neck. It's always pretty polite, even with a lot of drive.

    So that's my initial hit. I'm intrigued by it and liking it quite a bit. I don't feel like I've found it's 'soul' yet. I'm feeling like I need to spend some more quality time with it to understand it's personality. It's not a straight up 'jazz' guitar, and it's not a fusion guitar (and certainly not a 'rawk' guitar). It's a more 'gentle soul' than my other PRSi and I think I need to really listen to what it has to say rather than trying to make it into something that it's not.

    I've never come across a guitar this good, for this little money.
     
  2. Tahlee

    Tahlee Tollywood Rhode Island

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    “What I do notice; and I don't know whether it's the pickups, the body, or both, is that the guitar seems to respond best when played...gently. It doesn't particularly like to be hit hard.”

    This was a very good description of the character of the guitar. I’ve never played one, but now I have an idea of it’s nature.
     
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  3. ducmike

    ducmike New Member

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    Nice score, and PRS family.

    Could be the construction on the hard attack getting muddy. It's basically built like an acoustic, as far the top. Every small body acoustic I have owned will compress and overdrive a little and get a little muddy if I strum too hard.

    Love the color on the Santana, which color is that, Solana? I have a blood orange Santana that has a little bit of that "fire" look of yours at the right angles.
     
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  4. Rhythmisking

    Rhythmisking New Member

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    One thing I forgot to add was the guitar (mine at least) is a wee bit neck heavy. Not annoyingly so; it just wants to hang a bit low. A suede strap takes care of it, but all my other PRSi balance at the perfect playing angle.
     
  5. Rhythmisking

    Rhythmisking New Member

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    Yep.
     
  6. Aahzz

    Aahzz Bluebeard Member

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    Sweet guitar. I have the SE II, and agree fully that it's amazing that they can provide a guitar this good for so little money.
     
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  7. dogrocketp

    dogrocketp I drank the PRS kool aid, and it was tasty!

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    Back off the tone control slightly to get the big box jazz tone. You'll also find that the 58/15s respond very differently when you change the strings. I went through several different sets and didn't figure out what was the best. They decided to introduce the Hollowbody piezo, and they made it in blue, so I was powerless and had to buy it. I can tell you that I thoroughly enjoyed the standard. I put locking studs and tuners on it, and it didn't need anything else. It was better than any semi hollow I ever owned or played, including a beauty I had made in Kalamazoo. And it was a full hollow, which made it better to my ears.
     
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  8. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    That’s sweet! Great write up, too. I almost snagged one of the two Dave’s had at that silly price a couple of weeks ago.
     
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  9. Rhythmisking

    Rhythmisking New Member

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    Yeah, I haven't gone there yet. I came with the ubiquitous D'Addario 10's, which aren't my favorite strings, but they're brand new, so fine for now. I haven't decided which direction I want to push it in with the strings...I may go with pure nickel if I want to push the 'jazz' tone, but I'm not sure. That may increase the muddiness in rhythm playing, so I may go with something brighter.
     
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  10. veinbuster

    veinbuster Zombie Three, DFZ

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    It could be love.
    Enjoy.
     
  11. dogrocketp

    dogrocketp I drank the PRS kool aid, and it was tasty!

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    Consider the D'Addario half rounds if you want a more jazz like tone. They also aren't quite as touch sensitive as the stock strings.
     
  12. vchizzle

    vchizzle Zomb!e Nine, DFZ

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    Nice! I was eyeing that one(probably after you’d bought it). Interesting thoughts on playing with harder attack. I guess I’d have to play one, but that gives me slight pause though.
     

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