New SE locking tuners from PRS!

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  1. garrett

    garrett Lurkin'

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  2. Jazzedout

    Jazzedout More Guitars than Time...

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    Nice move...
     
  3. shinksma

    shinksma What? I get a title?

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    Wow! That will eliminate a lot of grumbling from the "SEs have tuning instability" crowd. (Never had an issue myself with any of my SEs.)
     
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  4. alantig

    alantig SSBMA

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    Direct replacements for the original SE tuners? Not sure it matters - I didn't see a 7-string set, and that's what I'm kinda looking for.
     
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  5. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Get in, loser, we’re going shopping.

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    Smart move on their part, they look quality too with the unplated brass shafts.

    Now all they gotta do is put’em on guitars.
     
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  6. Mozzi

    Mozzi https://imgur.com/user/BAMozzy

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    Its often not the tuners that cause tuning instability and, if you know how to wrap the string, its very unlikely the tuners are the issue. The most likely cause is the nut and I think most people seem to be confusing locking tuners with locking nuts. The biggest advantage of locking tuners is quicker/easier string changes.

    I am sure you probably knew all that anyway but in case others don't, its useful information. If people are struggling with tuning stability, its better to look at how you have wrapped the strings and/or lubed the nut - that generally fixes any issue - in fact changing the nut itself, a cheaper option, generally fixes and tuning instability.

    I am not going to say these are a 'pointless' upgrade to the regular tuners as I would want locking tuners myself - if only for the quicker, easier string changes. All my guitars have locking tuners (unsurprisingly) and its great that PRS are now offering these as an option. Its one of the most requested upgrade question in the forums - which locking tuners should they buy. Now there us a very easy answer that's guaranteed to fit....
     
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  7. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    Yes! All of us lazy guys are happy now!
     
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  8. garrett

    garrett Lurkin'

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    I'm not lazy, I just appreciate efficiency!
     
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  9. Tim S

    Tim S King of the barre chord

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    The market for Mann’s modified tuners is going to take a hit. That’s the only downside I see.
     
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  10. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    I was thinking the same thing, but who knows... maybe John is in on it somehow.
     
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  11. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Get in, loser, we’re going shopping.

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    For real.
     
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  12. dkilpatrick

    dkilpatrick Makes guitar faces

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    Yeah he gets to sell the PRS versions in his shop too
     
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  13. garrett

    garrett Lurkin'

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    Couldn't resist. Ordered a set tonight. Will report back.
     
  14. GavQuinn

    GavQuinn New Member

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    I can say that I had tuning issues with all 3 of mine. I replaced the nut on all of them and it cured the problem. The plastic nut on the ones I had never gave good lubrication.
     
  15. garrett

    garrett Lurkin'

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    Yes the nut causes the vast majority of tuning problems. Manufacturing is so good these days, it's very rarely the tuners unless someone isn't stringing them correctly.

    I use locking tuners because I like 'em.
     
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  16. dogrocketp

    dogrocketp I drank the PRS kool aid, and it was tasty!

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    I suffer from whammy madness, brought on by old age and the hunt for microtones. My SE’s have both new nuts and locking tuners. The tuning stability is tremendous. I only have one Stoptail, an SE 245. That has locking tuners on it and is used as my pit guitar when I play musicals (Mama Mia in a month.) I have to play with horns sometimes, and even a little out of tune sounds horrible in unison with a sax or woodwind. Not necessary is all relative.
     
  17. Fireroadeddy

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    They do not look like they will work on the SE Pauls
     
  18. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Guess not, but the Mann ones should do.
     
  19. Melisschief

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    I just bought a set of the locking tuners for my 2010 PRS SE Tremonti. I know they're a direct replacement, but I'm going to have a trusted luthier do the work. While they're replacing the tuners, what other work would you recommend? Replacing the nut? If so, which nut would you recommend?

    Thanks!
    - Melissa
     
  20. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Yes, the nut for sure while you're at it.
    I'd either do an original PRS core nut, or something that the luthier knows will work. Bone, or anything not plastic. Luthier will make sure the nut is cut properly for the string gauge you prefer.
     
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