New Pickups for 2025? Should I wait?

Hello Everyone,
Not sure who has seen that interview Paul did with American Musical about these new pickups they have in development, that he said will be the future sound of PRS going forward. Has anyone heard anything else about these? I've been thinking about getting a 408 pretty heavily these past few weeks but I'm wondering if I should hold off and see what 2025 brings. Any thoughts?
Wait only if exact replicas of Dragon I’s are going to be made. If not…:)
 
Haha even lower output pickups, a step below the LT class...

I do actually really like the 58/15LT's now. It's also kind of funny when you swap in a pickup that people have been loving for years and years but it's new to you and it's awesome! Like.. 57/08's, bkp mules, Duncan antiquities.

I'm curious what they'll bring to the table. PRS pickups are pretty damn good these days. Kinda got something for everyone.
 
Personally, I Feel The \m/ Pickups Should Get More Love. They Are Exceptional And Far More Versatile Than They Likely Get Credit For. How About A TCI \m/ ? Possibly A \m/ LT? Even Better Would Be A \m/ \m/ Version For The Proper Heavies.

:)
My \m/s are TCI :)
 
I remember Paul said the new sound started with the new NF pickups. So maybe there will be some variations of that?
I played an NF a few days ago...sounded killer, but the neck was way too big. Not for me at all, but a great sounding instrument.
 
I remember Paul said the new sound started with the new NF pickups. So maybe there will be some variations of that?
I played an NF a few days ago...sounded killer, but the neck was way too big. Not for me at all, but a great sounding instrument.
Well, he needs something to keep it interesting for himself the coming years. There will be a place for a lot of his 'older' stuff I imagine and honestly: I usually swap PUs anyways ;-)
 
You can't make a decision on which is better by one video. They really need to or someone has to really A/B them through the same setup.
Now the McCarty III appears, and I say appears to be warmer than the 85/15 Lt but that could be based on the amp settings
 
A good guitar that makes the sound you want is not worse than the promise of a future guitar that likely won’t do it any better.
 
A speaker cone sounds like a great guitar by aping or copying the string movement of a great guitar. That’s essentially how the whole electric guitar phenomenon works.

But the copy is just a copy. The true source, the true subject, is the string movement. But how strings move depends on which guitar they are attached to.

When I come across an inherently great guitar, I’ll grab it regardless of the pickups. I’ll deal with the quality of the copy makers later. Simply playing it acoustically will tell whether it is a great guitar.

That said, even copier machines have subtle differences. I’m sure those deep enough in the trade can tell the difference between a Xerox and a Cannon machine.

So if you come across a brilliant individual guitar that happens to be a 408, just grab it regardless. Though it so happens you’ve chosen a model where pickup replacement is not easy.

However if you can tell the generic difference between the 408 and the new pickups, then you should give the new pickups a chance. All things being equal, you could find great individual guitars in both ranges.
 
Looks like the 58/15's are gone The Special got the Mc Carty III's .. great choice I have a Maple neck Artist .. a hog or rosewood neck with the new III's would be a nice addition

 
The write up they have goes more in depth and has values tone curves.

Mccarty iii are now 8k and dmo treble/bass are 8.45/7.57k

The DC resistance of pickups is pretty nearly worthless without further details (wire diameter). E. g. a pickup with known 42 AWG and low DC resistance of 5.-ish kOhm might sound crispier, whilst another with 6.-ish kOhm will sound more emphasized in the mids, because of more output voltage.
More relevant is the figure of inductivity to tell something about the behaviour of the pickup.
The higher inductivity, the more output (in coincidence there will be a reduction of high frequencies).
Additionally the magnet types have an inpact on frequencies, too.

If you don't care about the capacity of the guitar cable, and Paul himself points out, that the guitar cable has a big influence on the sound of the guitar, you risk even more loss of highs by a high capacity cable.

And - as mentioned by colleagues before - a demo on their gear is one thing. The guitar need to sound with your signal chain.
 
The DC resistance of pickups is pretty nearly worthless without further details (wire diameter). E. g. a pickup with known 42 AWG and low DC resistance of 5.-ish kOhm might sound crispier, whilst another with 6.-ish kOhm will sound more emphasized in the mids, because of more output voltage.
More relevant is the figure of inductivity to tell something about the behaviour of the pickup.
The higher inductivity, the more output (in coincidence there will be a reduction of high frequencies).
Additionally the magnet types have an inpact on frequencies, too.

If you don't care about the capacity of the guitar cable, and Paul himself points out, that the guitar cable has a big influence on the sound of the guitar, you risk even more loss of highs by a high capacity cable.

And - as mentioned by colleagues before - a demo on their gear is one thing. The guitar need to sound with your signal chain.
But all of that adds to the EQ they posted.
They mentioned in the video that they use a Deluxe Reverb to test, so the behavior of the pickups should be expected from that information.

You bring up a good point though, they didn't mention the wire. Last time they did.
 
My own approach in case of potential guitar acquisition is not to stick too much on audiovisual demos.

First: Do I like the guitars optically?
Second: Does it have some unique specs, which the guitar would stood out in the own collection?
Third: Do I like the neck shape with the radius and fret format?

The freestyle is convincing me at home playing over my amp (and setting, I'm lazy, I don't tweak the EQ for each guitar) and cab.
 
As you can see, OP, “better” or “best” changes with each player. Guitars, speakers, amps, tubes, modelers, pedals… everyone has a flavor they like or a wagon they’re on that they’ll defend. I’m glad you’re moving on to giving that 408 a try. It’s really the only way to know, and the only way to get the one opinion that fits your needs perfectly: yours!
 
The DC resistance of pickups is pretty nearly worthless without further details (wire diameter). E. g. a pickup with known 42 AWG and low DC resistance of 5.-ish kOhm might sound crispier, whilst another with 6.-ish kOhm will sound more emphasized in the mids, because of more output voltage.
More relevant is the figure of inductivity to tell something about the behaviour of the pickup.
The higher inductivity, the more output (in coincidence there will be a reduction of high frequencies).
Additionally the magnet types have an inpact on frequencies, too.

If you don't care about the capacity of the guitar cable, and Paul himself points out, that the guitar cable has a big influence on the sound of the guitar, you risk even more loss of highs by a high capacity cable.

And - as mentioned by colleagues before - a demo on their gear is one thing. The guitar need to sound with your signal chain.
Agreed. Another thing I noticed that the mentioned in the new pickup spec is that they are using American magnets in them. That is going to change things a bit as well as make them more expensive to make.
 
I would prefer magnets from Greenland 😉
Really?! There ist a difference, between Alnico III and IV human won't listen differences, but III, V, and Ceramic differ noticable in their frequency response.
 
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